The surplus labor value which is extracted from a worker by his employer in excess of what is required to reproduce the conditions necessary for sustainment.

or they're fucking retarded

@Teddy The only natural right that is given to us is death, it does not matter your religion, your natural rights will never change just because you worship the sun god, or a meme, the only natural right that will ever be granted to you, unless you are jesus, is death itself.

Not true

But that's fine

95% of anticommunists are one of the two

@Teddy How so?

You can enjoy your lack of rights in your communist utopia, friend

I'm certain you would enjoy that

That isn't an argument though.....

^

Humans don't have rights, so that means that anything that the government says you can do, is all you can do?

That's fucking slavery

Oh no I will have no money and work in the community for the community

Unfortunate

It's not the fact that you work for the community or not

It's whether you are forced to

or not

That's not how slavery works what

Yes it is

Help me understand. The only right naturally given to you is death correct?

@Teddy Obviously not, that is where morals come into play, but it is a true statement nonetheless that the only natural rights that you will ever have is death.

If you do not have rights unless the government gives you to them, then it is slavery

You are a slave to the state

@dawsonmw Yes.

that's not communism

There's nothing utopian about it. What's utopian is the idea that the free-market actually exists and capitalism can function without the state. This is the result of an outright denial of the present material conditions as well as the history of such a system. You're just another market cuck in La La Land.

So the only rights we receive are the ones given to us by government?

I'm not arguing about communism, I'm talking about rights

You people are saying that rights do not exist

@Deleted User Woulden't it be a dictatorship of the corporations if there was no state?

they don't

Not really

so the only rights you have are ordained to you by the state?

Man is his own goad

Stirner was right

Whatever happens is whatever happens

@Teddy Pretty much.

*god

@Deleted User Most likely as monopolization would naturally occur.

Are you unironically spelling like that lol