Message from @mcstubbs

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2018-05-12 02:35:38 UTC  

Get ready for this intellectual response

2018-05-12 02:38:27 UTC  

Then that's claim since that's not what happened. Most poor developing countries gain quite a lot due to capitalism. Even in Africa. Hell same for Japan. Especially for japan in the past. I know what mutual aid is, it still doesn't negate the fact that most humans depend on hierarchy and need it to survive. Count Dankula made a really good video on this with his own research but unfortunately I cant find it right now. Humans again, make their own environment, that's how we survive. Otherwise we'd be eaten alive by wild animals because we're not as strong or as fast as a lot of animals. That's why we used to live in caves and stuff, because it was safer than going out in the wild unless you needed to hunt. Quite a lot of animals would die without a place to hide or live in. So logically living in such an environment seems to be the best thing to do in order to survive. It's basic adaption. Survival. "artificial" or not, many animals like humans use their environment and make their own environment to survive. Also another form of cooperation is conflict, without it we'd be very over populated. It's the same reason why animals eat eachother so because humans dont have a natural predator we fight with eachother. Which in turn allows us not to overpopulate. Hierarchy and government is very necessary, it's pretty much a tribal tradition since the dawn of man and all over the world too. Societies are worker controlled, that's how people gain money. I don't know what "tyrannical capitalist government" you're talking about though since most capitalist countries support their people, especially western countries. Hence why western countries are more successful, that and a better culture due to christianity.

2018-05-12 02:39:09 UTC  

I do know what human nature is and also I dont look at memes buy, you're the one who posts them regularly.

2018-05-12 02:39:36 UTC  

Is this a copy paste

2018-05-12 02:39:44 UTC  

Wouldn't be surprised

2018-05-12 02:39:51 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/444690138925367297/IMG_20180430_205103.jpg

2018-05-12 02:39:52 UTC  

Besides I've yet to know of a successful anarchist society .

2018-05-12 02:39:56 UTC  

Not even worth reading

2018-05-12 02:39:58 UTC  

Rojava

2018-05-12 02:40:04 UTC  

Wasnt for you but okay.

2018-05-12 02:40:18 UTC  

Rojava

2018-05-12 02:40:25 UTC  

revolutionary catalonia failed not on its own merits but due to stalinist meddling and being crushed by a militarily superior force.

2018-05-12 02:40:47 UTC  

> even in Africa same for Japan

2018-05-12 02:40:50 UTC  

Actually what

2018-05-12 02:40:53 UTC  

They're not a society.

2018-05-12 02:41:03 UTC  

Plus they probably also depend on hierarchy

2018-05-12 02:41:06 UTC  

h-how?

2018-05-12 02:41:11 UTC  

According to Mr E countries that fall from war aren't successful soo

2018-05-12 02:41:14 UTC  

Rojava

2018-05-12 02:41:20 UTC  

They're a military group but not a society.

2018-05-12 02:41:38 UTC  

they weren't hierarchical. they weren't bound by any sort of central state. industry and agriculture existed. culture went on. *what?*

2018-05-12 02:41:52 UTC  

Not just catalonia. Many others failed too.

2018-05-12 02:42:05 UTC  

Im not surprised it got destroyed by stalinists though

2018-05-12 02:42:08 UTC  

"Societies are worker controlled"

2018-05-12 02:42:14 UTC  

Comrade Mr E

2018-05-12 02:42:29 UTC  

@mcstubbs So it has no commanders or anything?

2018-05-12 02:42:32 UTC  

> due to Christianity

2018-05-12 02:42:44 UTC  

it had a volunteer militia with elected officers.

2018-05-12 02:42:45 UTC  

*ignores every other christian nation*

2018-05-12 02:42:45 UTC  

No it's successful due to having workers.

2018-05-12 02:42:59 UTC  

But yes its also worker controlled

2018-05-12 02:43:10 UTC  

He actually just posted what Peterson said about hierarchy

2018-05-12 02:43:11 UTC  

Bless

2018-05-12 02:43:13 UTC  

@mcstubbs Oh so it does depend on hierarchy then

2018-05-12 02:43:22 UTC  

When did I post that?

2018-05-12 02:43:30 UTC  

Im not ignoring every other christian nation.

2018-05-12 02:43:35 UTC  

anarchists primarily believe in abolishing unjustified hierarchies.

2018-05-12 02:43:40 UTC  

not all of them.

2018-05-12 02:43:41 UTC  

Most are far more better than eastern nations.

2018-05-12 02:44:00 UTC  

@mcstubbs So what's unjustified to them then? Lol

2018-05-12 02:44:16 UTC  

things that don't represent the interests of the people that they control.