Message from @quiscalus

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2018-06-11 13:13:56 UTC  

I live in one of the most liberal cities in the US and I am still a bit wary of running afoul of the idpol enforcers

2018-06-11 13:14:50 UTC  

Like I hang out with other leftists and go shooting but I never joined any group beyond my immediate friends

2018-06-11 13:16:34 UTC  

How do think most people get to left thought?

2018-06-11 13:19:28 UTC  

I am weird because I am not anti idpol, I think the goals are lofty but often a latter priority compared to class and often people hurt a cause by how they try to achieve those goals.

2018-06-11 13:21:48 UTC  

Like I have a friend that is a full Tumblr feminist that hates men pretty vocally and thinks straight men that aren't interested in trans women are transphobic, I think that's pretty insane even though I am a straight dude that has dated trans women.

2018-06-11 13:23:01 UTC  

Yeah as an ML I tend to stay away from that stuff and focus on class.

2018-06-11 13:24:42 UTC  

How do you get people to grasp what Marx is getting at when talking about the exploitation of labor that can appeal to every day working folks?

2018-06-11 13:25:05 UTC  

Well, since people seem to be obsessed with idpol it's tough.

2018-06-11 13:25:19 UTC  

Especially anti-revisionism

2018-06-11 13:27:03 UTC  

Like imageboards will tell you to read Marx but most people don't enjoy reading, I think you gotta convey a message that immediately appeals to the material interests of people while being jargon free and requires no real effort by the viewer

2018-06-11 13:29:11 UTC  

I think these flaws have largely relegated left thought to college students and kind of doesn't help the people who would benefit most from this type of analysis

2018-06-11 13:30:09 UTC  

Exactly. The intellectual aspect of leftism should come after the appeal to workingmen.

2018-06-11 13:30:15 UTC  

I am part of the working poor and work with largely convicts and immigrants who are laborers in agriculture

2018-06-11 13:31:19 UTC  

Quis

2018-06-11 13:31:23 UTC  

Most of them are really heavily influenced by capitalist propaganda so waking them up to how they are getting ripped off is hard

2018-06-11 13:31:27 UTC  

I live in Texas

2018-06-11 13:31:29 UTC  

Howdy

2018-06-11 13:31:32 UTC  

And your a lying faggot

2018-06-11 13:31:58 UTC  

About what specifically?

2018-06-11 13:32:13 UTC  

I work in construction.

2018-06-11 13:32:31 UTC  

I am originally from Austin but live in Olympia WA now

2018-06-11 13:33:21 UTC  

When the federal government purchased land from Mexico after kicking their ass ass may I add which they didn't have to do they granted citizenship to all denizens on those regions

2018-06-11 13:34:12 UTC  

It was actually really heated because the nogger lovers flipped shit arguing about how the spics had more rights than negros

2018-06-11 13:34:35 UTC  

You are saying all other Mexicans were citizens as well and were treated fairly?

2018-06-11 13:34:40 UTC  

So saying we've ever taken away the rights of the Mexicans who's land we claimed is retarded

2018-06-11 13:34:49 UTC  

"Other"

2018-06-11 13:35:05 UTC  

You want us to give citezenship to all Mexicans

2018-06-11 13:35:09 UTC  

Are you autistic

2018-06-11 13:35:19 UTC  

I was saying Mexican have been kept out of lands that we're originally Mexico and mistreated

2018-06-11 13:35:26 UTC  

And

2018-06-11 13:35:36 UTC  

No one should have any land @quiscalus

2018-06-11 13:35:38 UTC  

Mexico did the same to tejanos

2018-06-11 13:36:54 UTC  

Mexicans don't deserve shit

2018-06-11 13:37:06 UTC  

They are barbaric disloyal faggots

2018-06-11 13:37:07 UTC  

I am saying that the designation of who is a good immigrant and a bad one of national origin alone is not great

2018-06-11 13:37:08 UTC  

However

2018-06-11 13:37:24 UTC  

Nope

2018-06-11 13:37:33 UTC  

It is great

2018-06-11 13:37:51 UTC  

I would rather take a German or a jap any day over a spic

2018-06-11 13:38:20 UTC  

>What are you doing in a lefty server

2018-06-11 13:38:29 UTC  

How so? I don't think you can measure the quality of an individual based on nationality alone