Paradise over there I’m sure

that is because of western sanctions

Uh huh

how do you think north korea would be doing without sanctions

Worst then south korea

And Kim would be richer

because south korea has the world's worst sanctions

I feel like it's strange that us leftists always gotta take a stance on every country ever. Like North Korea, might be cool might suck who knows . All i know is that I gotta try to improve my community and the place that I have the ability to take action in.

South Korea is a democracy that doesn’t have concentration camps

That tends to make most western nations play ball with you in some degree

Like yeah, no more imperialist wars and hell no invading north korea, but shit I feel like it's a waste of time to spend all day constantly defending a country that none of us probably will ever go to or whatever.

Saudi Arabia is a democracy that doesn't behead people like ISIS

I mean I care because people are starving over there

proof

"i heard it on the news"

Because one family what’s to hold onto his hermit kingdom

Like yeah, I'll stand in solidarity with whatever the Korean workers support but I'm not going to take an intricate political stance on something in which I can't take action on.

Lmao Robert have you actually done any research

Beyond “ebil west lie about based communist utopia”

mindblowing proof bro

I have a strange feeling this is going to be pointless but

> the World Food Program has reported malnutrition and food shortages, but not famine.[77] In 2016, UN Committee on the Rights of the Child reported a steady decline in the infant mortality rate since 2008.[78] An academic analysis in 2016 found that the situation had greatly improved since the 1990s and that North Korea's levels of health and nutrition were on par with other developing countries.[79] In 2017, the analyst Andrei Lankov argued that previous predictions of a return to famine were unfounded, and that the days of starvation were long since passed.[80]

>A survey in 2017 found that the famine had skewed North Korea's demography, impacting particularly on boy babies. Women aged 20-24 made up 4% of the population, while men in the same age group made up only 2.5%.[81] Chronic or reccurent malnutrition dropped from 28 percent in 2012 to 19 percent in 2017.[82]

sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_famine
http://www1.wfp.org/countries/democratic-peoples-republic-korea

Hmm malnourishment would be a more app word

this is from liberal ass wikipedia yo

International food aid keeps a famine at bay

The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) suffers high levels of food insecurity. Its harsh climate, mountainous terrain and lack of farming mechanization limit agricultural production, which shows a declining trend across all crops. A drought in 2015 worsened the situation, resulting in a 11 percent reduction in harvests on the previous year. This has led to a substantial food shortage, which is compounded by political and commercial isolation and weather-related crises.

Y I’m not doubting ya

how is this the north korean government's fault

it has a shitty climate

Why does North Korea always have to be either a shithole or a glorious utopia, y'all realize most countries are neither right?

Most countries are just kinda ehh, have bad shit have good shit

I mean sure

I don’t care about the conditions I care for the actions of the people in charge

Humanitarian stuff

what can the government do about harsh climates?

Liberalize the economy and import more food

sanctions

Maybe bring down the Kim regime while there at it

for something they cant control?