Message from @Mr. X

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2018-07-15 00:27:58 UTC  

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and these people deserve access to medical care to help them through something like that

2018-07-15 00:28:07 UTC  

I completely agree

2018-07-15 00:28:19 UTC  

We should actually deal with the problem instead of mutilate them and be done with it

2018-07-15 00:28:45 UTC  

but I'd rather be as respectful as I can with those who suffer mental disorders especially when it comes to their own disorders.

2018-07-15 00:29:21 UTC  

I dont think they should be mutilated but I'll call someone the opposite gender if asked. I dont see myself saying xir or they though.

2018-07-15 00:29:35 UTC  

Unless its like very serious gender dysphoria and not attention seeking

2018-07-15 00:30:06 UTC  

In my opinion, what I've been told by professionals is that you should not indulge a patients delusions. This line is usually what I get from medical professionals regarding stuff like people that are convinced they are aliens or whatever

2018-07-15 00:30:12 UTC  

wtf being trans isnt a mental disorder

2018-07-15 00:30:14 UTC  

I second this opinion

2018-07-15 00:30:21 UTC  

It is @Amoviet

2018-07-15 00:30:22 UTC  

just let people be who they want to

2018-07-15 00:30:24 UTC  

ffs

2018-07-15 00:30:38 UTC  

Would you let a friend saw their arm off?

2018-07-15 00:30:49 UTC  

You wouldnt

2018-07-15 00:30:55 UTC  

wow identifying as another gender is the same as thinking youre an alien or sawing your own arm off

2018-07-15 00:30:58 UTC  

yeah ok

2018-07-15 00:31:00 UTC  

@Amoviet yes but then the patient might just leave.

2018-07-15 00:31:30 UTC  

which has happened

2018-07-15 00:31:30 UTC  

they arent even fucking comparable

2018-07-15 00:31:33 UTC  

What you can deduce from this, though, is that allowing someone to come to harm through inaction is bad

2018-07-15 00:31:39 UTC  

With very emotional patients

2018-07-15 00:31:57 UTC  

it isnt harmful though they're just saying "hey please call me he instead of she"

2018-07-15 00:32:02 UTC  

its a trivial thing

2018-07-15 00:32:09 UTC  

It is inherently harmful to delude yourself

2018-07-15 00:32:16 UTC  

Hmm

2018-07-15 00:32:25 UTC  

It is not a coincidence there is such a strong correlation with other mental illnesses

2018-07-15 00:32:37 UTC  

you do know that these people *know* theyre still their biological gender right?

2018-07-15 00:32:57 UTC  

identifying as another gender =/= thinking that you are in every way that gender

2018-07-15 00:33:11 UTC  

Gender is a bogus concept, to start

2018-07-15 00:33:23 UTC  

John Money was a porky pedo

2018-07-15 00:33:37 UTC  

its true, I knew someone who wanted to be called they and everyone called him they and he kept transitioning and got very very emotional and suicidal and depressed partly because he wasnt satisfied with what he looked like.

2018-07-15 00:33:45 UTC  

sex is your biological, at birth, unchangeable identity

2018-07-15 00:33:51 UTC  

gender is just what you want to be called

2018-07-15 00:33:53 UTC  

Still not comfortable with calling him a him but I'd rather he not be dead.

2018-07-15 00:34:36 UTC  

its really a terrible thing

2018-07-15 00:34:49 UTC  

@Mr. X it would have actually been easier to prevent him@dying if he never started the transition

2018-07-15 00:35:09 UTC  

@Amoviet so, one is made up and the other is real?

2018-07-15 00:35:14 UTC  

saying "well just dont be trans" is like saying "well just dont be gay"

2018-07-15 00:35:22 UTC  

Well, dont be gay lol

2018-07-15 00:35:28 UTC  

HIV and such

2018-07-15 00:35:29 UTC  

I dont know, he was very sensitive and over emotional plus I wasnt good at telling the truth back then