Message from @PugSlugger

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2018-07-17 14:35:22 UTC  

Lol

2018-07-17 14:35:24 UTC  

maybe you should read a book, idk

2018-07-17 14:35:27 UTC  

Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa. Gaddafi was socialsit.

2018-07-17 14:35:30 UTC  

>the US is a communist country because it’s military is state owned

2018-07-17 14:35:47 UTC  

t. dark enlightenment

2018-07-17 14:36:09 UTC  

PugSlugger, look up paul cockshott. Labor theory of value is the best explanation of prices.

2018-07-17 14:36:19 UTC  

Tell me, Pug, what is value?

2018-07-17 14:36:36 UTC  

My dude the amount of labor put in to something doesnt determine value.

2018-07-17 14:36:36 UTC  

I doubt you even know what the "value" in labor theory of value means.

2018-07-17 14:36:42 UTC  

What is value?

2018-07-17 14:36:58 UTC  

What do you mean by "value" when you say that the amount of labor does not determine value?

2018-07-17 14:37:01 UTC  

What someone pays for a product

2018-07-17 14:37:08 UTC  

...

2018-07-17 14:37:11 UTC  

gaddafi was a socialist

2018-07-17 14:37:11 UTC  

Be that labor or otherwise

2018-07-17 14:37:13 UTC  

not communist

2018-07-17 14:37:17 UTC  

socialism requires a state

2018-07-17 14:37:21 UTC  

Who is this someone?

2018-07-17 14:37:22 UTC  

@Deleted User same thing

2018-07-17 14:37:30 UTC  

socialism is state-owned means of production

2018-07-17 14:37:30 UTC  
2018-07-17 14:37:33 UTC  

wrong

2018-07-17 14:37:35 UTC  

communism is worker-owned means of production

2018-07-17 14:37:36 UTC  

That's not what value is

2018-07-17 14:37:37 UTC  

Wew

2018-07-17 14:37:49 UTC  

very different if you actually understand what that means

2018-07-17 14:37:55 UTC  

value in the Labor theory of value means the AVERAGE exchange rate of a product

2018-07-17 14:38:07 UTC  

@BabygottBach literally the same thing

2018-07-17 14:38:10 UTC  

false

2018-07-17 14:38:21 UTC  

individuals are weird and idiosyncratic

2018-07-17 14:38:24 UTC  

Ok we can play semantic games all day

2018-07-17 14:38:31 UTC  

This is not semantics

2018-07-17 14:38:42 UTC  

The individual is not the same as the whole

2018-07-17 14:38:52 UTC  

Where demand and supply meet is where the value is

2018-07-17 14:38:57 UTC  

The labor theory of value doesn't care about the individual

2018-07-17 14:39:17 UTC  

You can work 50 hours a week and the value of that labor could be worth a dollar

2018-07-17 14:39:17 UTC  

it's about the aggregate, large scale phenomena

2018-07-17 14:39:32 UTC  

Define value

2018-07-17 14:39:46 UTC  

If you dont have a market to determine value you dont have value

2018-07-17 14:40:04 UTC  

There is no mathematical way to calculate value if you dont have supply and demand

2018-07-17 14:40:07 UTC  

You need a market exchange in order for things to be exchanged