Manumission was completely up to the whim of the owner

Correct but I mean in general

You could offer to pay your owner 10 times what he paid for you and he could refuse

that's called slavery

obviously there was a price then but now its more basic

and better

thats not called slavery

I don't understand how your a slave.

That's called being way too abstract in your concepts

slavery is ownership of another person

How's that abstract?

What human past or present has not been a slave under your definition?

I thought my terms were too loose?

Abstract and loose mean similar things

Most people are slaves.

who isn't?

I never said they werent

To what?

The rich arent

Why the hell would we use your definition of slave then?

Mr.E

because its the traditional definition

They have to spend some of their time making sure they stay rich

it's not the traditional definition

It is

it's not the current definition

its a bit of both to be honest

and it sure as hell is not the definition people on this server use

mostly traditional

It's a bit of neither

just more humanitarian and better

And yes, obviously staying rich can be hard, especially with taxes

You twist language like it's nothing

I dont care what people on this server use.

So the rich are slaves because they also have to work

that's why you're an autist

Im not concerned with the group or ideology, Im more concerned with the invidual.

Enough flattery, I get it, autistic people are smart, move on.

self centered prick. discussing with you is maddening. Basic words you twist to define the strangest things.

You're not smart

You're autistic