Message from @Bagrat

Discord ID: 469201072997531660


2018-07-18 17:50:17 UTC  

I think if a women doesn't want to take care of a child but conceives one a) shes stupid for ignoring the numerous forms of birth control readily available and b) at that point the child should be born and become the communities responsibility to raise as a fellow citizen

2018-07-18 17:50:29 UTC  

USA

2018-07-18 17:50:40 UTC  

rust belt to be precise

2018-07-18 17:50:47 UTC  

oof

2018-07-18 17:51:25 UTC  

@Bagrat that’s a little dumb... just because a kid exists doesn’t mean they deserve the fruits of my labor

2018-07-18 17:51:35 UTC  

And damn lol you guys got flipped in 2016 that’s for sure

2018-07-18 17:51:40 UTC  

It’s okay though I voted for the Donald

2018-07-18 17:51:42 UTC  

yeah really lmao

2018-07-18 17:52:07 UTC  

trying to convince people of socialism where i live is like pounding your head against a brick wall

2018-07-18 17:52:24 UTC  

cuz i live in a middle-class suburban neighborhood

2018-07-18 17:52:44 UTC  

It's the social aspects that people package with socialism that are unappealing

2018-07-18 17:53:08 UTC  

as most are out of touch with todays generally accepting and socially equal society

2018-07-18 17:53:58 UTC  

The real selling point for any white blue or black collar area is the decay of capitalism and the failing system around them

2018-07-18 17:54:17 UTC  

i always thought of it more as a difficulty of coming to terms with hard, depressing truths about the world we live in

2018-07-18 17:55:18 UTC  

most white families are slowly sinking out of the middle class and are trying to really on old systems which succeeded in the past at giving them reasonable legislature

2018-07-18 17:55:32 UTC  

ie the Republican party and conservatism in general

2018-07-18 17:55:59 UTC  

while simultaneously denying other groups that they dont much care about any say

2018-07-18 17:56:03 UTC  

i.e. the alt right

2018-07-18 17:56:26 UTC  

*care much about

2018-07-18 17:56:55 UTC  

Really the problem with marketing socialism now is the name itself

2018-07-18 17:57:33 UTC  

there are too many pissants who don't know anything about any form of Marxism and just want free stuff

2018-07-18 17:57:48 UTC  

and people who think socialism = they want my toothbrush

2018-07-18 17:58:12 UTC  

that's why i tend to refer to specific ideologies first and socialism/communism later

2018-07-18 17:59:02 UTC  

for example, when i talk about my beliefs, while i believe myself to be a socialist/communist first and a trotskyist second, i still open with the term trotskyism as not to instantly turn people off

2018-07-18 17:59:23 UTC  

Leon Trotsky makes me hotsky

2018-07-18 17:59:28 UTC  

ayyyy

2018-07-18 18:00:14 UTC  

out of the 3 big boise of the Russian Revolution he's probably my favorite

2018-07-18 18:00:29 UTC  

Although Lenin was onto something with the NEP

2018-07-18 18:00:41 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/469201861652774933/images.png

2018-07-18 18:02:02 UTC  

Mao was pretty cool to though

2018-07-18 18:02:11 UTC  

yeah he was alright

2018-07-18 18:02:42 UTC  

I think in the end all these figures failed in the long game though

2018-07-18 18:03:25 UTC  

and for the most part I think moving forward anything like the authoritarian communism of the past is going to be a relic

2018-07-18 18:03:51 UTC  

yeah thats why i try to adapt trotsky's theories for the modern day

2018-07-18 18:04:22 UTC  

Invade India the most applicable one

2018-07-18 18:04:30 UTC  

oof

2018-07-18 18:06:22 UTC  

I think Trotsky was a little too ideologically idealistic and a tad bonkers but my god that man could have gone far if it weren't for a certain ice pick wielding mustachioed menace

2018-07-18 18:07:03 UTC  

well hey, when you have 3 flawed leaders you can't be too

***p i c k y***

2018-07-18 18:07:40 UTC  

but yeah the dude was the best kind of crazy

2018-07-18 18:08:06 UTC  

there's a vid by alternate history hub that, while not getting most of the stuff right, nails trotsky