Shhh

dont tell him!

Yeah, how dare society profit from successful businessmen?

I don't think you understand labor value

the worker produces more than the cost to hire them

Socially necessary labor time value lol

What a dumb concept

workers produce more value than what they are paid

the extra value is taken by the employer

this is surplus value

You understand I could just not work and live on rent from the working class

would u call me lazy for that

or a smart businessman?

>he thinks society profits from the succes of a businessman and it is not the fucking businessman that is profitting

Except they don’t

>businessmen don't profit

wew lad

for every million invested there is 80k per annum returned for free in interest

Yep

Here we go

Im hitting the fucking hay

gn

Have fun with this retard

Gn

No, I mean they don’t produce more than they get paid for

but then how is profit made?

the production cost includes the wages you pay to your workers

The collective actions of workers that result in an end product through division of labor

that involves surplus value

the rich dont do anything

just own and collect

there isnt any genius to it

if you have money u can make money its easy

We need to collectivize the toothbrushes

Oh yeah, they don’t design, own and run businesses with their own unique intellectual property and such?

the commodity produced is equivalent to all of the labor that went into it
so if the person selling the commodity gets more money than they put into making it, then they haven't paid the workers an equivalent amount to what their labor is worth

you dont get it

the rich just own parts of the economy through shares and land holdings

design

?