Message from @D3VNT

Discord ID: 279797799183450125


2017-02-11 02:13:23 UTC  

Wikipedia are traitors.

2017-02-11 02:13:25 UTC  

The state owns the means of production in socialism

2017-02-11 02:13:42 UTC  

no

2017-02-11 02:13:44 UTC  

And in Germany all landowners were such with government permission

2017-02-11 02:13:50 UTC  

Nazi Germany did not own the means of production

2017-02-11 02:13:55 UTC  

The state ends up owning, the workers are meant to own it.

2017-02-11 02:14:07 UTC  

^

2017-02-11 02:14:14 UTC  

Socialism the theory is worker ownership, socialism practice is government ownership.

2017-02-11 02:14:25 UTC  

Please tell me all about how German means of productionw as privately owned and operated

2017-02-11 02:14:28 UTC  

Oh wiat, you can't

2017-02-11 02:14:35 UTC  

Because Gestapo

2017-02-11 02:14:51 UTC  

Lol

2017-02-11 02:14:52 UTC  

Ok

2017-02-11 02:14:56 UTC  

If you want Socialism in the US literally kill yourself

2017-02-11 02:15:04 UTC  

^

2017-02-11 02:15:04 UTC  

The Constitution is not to be fucked with

2017-02-11 02:15:14 UTC  

Socialism and the US are incompatible

2017-02-11 02:16:01 UTC  

And /pol/ memes aside

2017-02-11 02:16:05 UTC  

America is an experiment in Liberty.

2017-02-11 02:16:10 UTC  

National Soc in Germany was fucking awful

2017-02-11 02:16:33 UTC  

I don't understand the revisionism saying it was all sunshine and rainbows

2017-02-11 02:16:42 UTC  

The state becomes the distributor and owner of these factories through the fact that nobody will willingly give away their resources to people who are not willing to put the effort in to actually improve their circumstances

2017-02-11 02:16:52 UTC  

Sunshine and rainbows? No.
Better than Weimar? Almost definitely.

2017-02-11 02:17:08 UTC  

companies as an effect merely become a spouting point of socialist and communist propaganda

2017-02-11 02:17:17 UTC  

Fascism/NatSoc were always meant to be transitionary.
An emergency mode for the state that would eventually transition back to a republic.

2017-02-11 02:17:28 UTC  

Makes sense

2017-02-11 02:17:29 UTC  

I'll come back later, there's a little too much autism, even for us.

2017-02-11 02:17:31 UTC  

But seriosuly

2017-02-11 02:17:47 UTC  

Germany under Hitler was prison

2017-02-11 02:18:15 UTC  

Do as we say, obey, or be punished

2017-02-11 02:18:38 UTC  

I don't agree with fascism merely for the fact that it, like communism or any other authoritarian program does not allow for dissent. This by extension could be eventually and incrementally used against the leading population

2017-02-11 02:18:47 UTC  

Germany under Hitler was an unpleasant dictatorship.

I'd only accept an authoritarian government as a means to create a more free, and strong libertarian government.

2017-02-11 02:19:05 UTC  

Even then, I'd be wary.

2017-02-11 02:19:12 UTC  

and effectivly have the tables turned on the leading population, and as a result absolutely destroy it

2017-02-11 02:19:26 UTC  

in either rebellion, civil war, etc

2017-02-11 02:19:41 UTC  

or if the guns and other rights are taken away in time, subjugation

2017-02-11 02:19:42 UTC  

"Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable"

2017-02-11 02:19:49 UTC  

But seriously

2017-02-11 02:19:57 UTC  

The fucking Hitler hero worship stops in thsi discord now

2017-02-11 02:19:58 UTC  

basically that

2017-02-11 02:20:13 UTC  

It's not like Hitler wasn't wrong