lol

@seer Why is nationalized healthcare bad again?

hmmmmmmmmm

if everyone has the same healthcare

wait lines are long asf

shitty care

high tax

just get more doctors boom no more long wait lines

eh

you'll maybe cut wait times by a minute

not much considering the wait times are so fucking long

@seer Wait lines are already long for private healthcare, may I remind you that some require years of waiting? Shitty care? How so? Taxes are usually not brought up by much for healthcare nationalization.

anyone know any anarchist discords this ones fuckin lame

if your private healthcare makes you wait a year you must be spending one cent a year

@seer This high schooler dosen't know how much private healthcare costs.

oh I do know

and it's good that the more you pay the better your care is

someone has the pay for the medicine and someone has to invent medical tech and medicine

it aint free

And why can't the government which is responsible for all of the high tech shit you have in your hands?

most medical advancements come from the private sector

my dude

It is state institutions that got you most of your medical care by the way.

Such as?

you expect me to know everyone who invents shit

no

The burden of evidence lies on you, the one who makes the claims.

https://www.policymed.com/2011/02/nejm-the-private-sector-discoveries-account-for-79-90-of-pharmaceutical-products.html

just because it was invented in a private sector doesn't mean that being private was the reason it was made. scientists don't care if you're being funded by the government or investors, they're just doing their job.

@seer That's the pharmaxeutical products though, as in stuff that can be mass produced with little innovation or change, and the stuff that is changed, is stuff like anti biotics which become irrelevant over time.

like shit still gets invented in socialist countries it's not like you have to be capitalist in order to progress

it sure helps

debatable. a bunch of african and asian countries have regressed thanks to it

like there exists third world capitalist countries

@ashoka To be fair, the soviet union and china is renowned for being extremely low quality and cheaply produced, which ironically led to them becoming capitalist.

They have to do with what they have. China have to import steel since there's little good steel in their country, and Russia has always had a history of being poor thanks largely to their geography. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Even if china has their steel imported, their quality control is almost non existant, leading to shitty products, which was obviously done to minimise causts and maximise profits, china is the most dependant on oil, to the point where they imperialize african countries for it, I wonder what will happen to them once things change and oil becomes costly.

probably have to revert back to socialism like fr

my dick is hard

@amsalem Israeli agents keep dying

Lmao