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he was Gallilean
and a Levantine
says here that the pollen came from plants placed on the shroud
I mean Jesus not Caeser Borgia- he was itallian
Jesus was not an ethnic jew
and the evidence came from photo negatives from 1931
@DA GOMMIE JOO so you admit there is pollen?
yes
there is pollen
but your goalposts are moved to flowers being put on the shroud by visitors?
that's what the researcher who you cited said
on his website
which I linked
Jesus looked closer to this
Irony abounds. That's where the truest Christians come from too
irony?
whats ironic?
you mean coincidence?
Blowing them up for oil
i think Assad should rightfully take israel and palestine
the pollen found on the shroud belonged to a plant called gundelia
which grows in the eastern mediterranean
yes
nvm I mixed up east and west there
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so the range we're dealing with here is libya to iran
are you of the dumb?
it's even described as having an iranian chorotype
so?
In modern Hebrew it is called "Akuvit ha-galgal." This name combines the Talmudic name for the plant (akkub), which survives in the modern Arabic name for the plant, with the Biblical Galgal. This species, native to semi-desert areas of Jerusalem and the Near East, is related to thistles and artichokes.
Some Bible scholars think that the tumbleweed of Psalm 83: 14 ("Make them like tumbleweed, O my God, like galgal before the wind") is akoub. By the metaphor of galgal, the Psalmist is asking the Lord to make Israel's enemies like galgal: although they look frightening, their base is weak. The whole plant can be driven by the wind and it will be gone. The use of this plant is apparently quite old, being mentioned in the Babylonian Talmud and the Bible. This is the plant called silybum by Dioscorides.
HURR DURR
so the range is pretty large
so the possible area the shroud could have been made in is pretty large
which means that the pollen proves very little about how authentic it is
the name of the plant has nothing to do with it
>shroud is made in the middle east
>is used to wrap Christ
HURR
>things can only be used exactly where they are made