its subjective

Stuck it into your ass

All I care

@Firefly

Yes?

Have you no preference between intelligence and stupidity, between health and weakness, between long life and quick death?

@Hagel In abstract I do not. In instinct I do.

Well

Regardless of whether you have a preference, populations differ in ways such as these

Of course we can subdivide intelligence, and even in IQ tests, we see that populations with similar average scores, get their scores in different ways

some do well on the linguistic parts, others on the spatial parts

You talk like a bot. I already agreed with this point

Following your programm

Need to adjust

We've moved into the subjective realm of the mind, the domain of values

We can't argue any here

Yes we can

We can make our case to the people listening

and they can choose what appeals to them more

but we're not arguing about objective facts anymore

Values are not only subjective but also objective

some of the values are indeed subjective. Like yours

But other values a legitimate.

They meet reality

So some values we can't argue about

Some we can

How? We can measure how long a person lives for

but not whether it's good or bad to live for long or to die quickly

That differs between people

Some people want to live forever, some people want to commit suicide

We can measure without conclusions of" better"

I do not think life is important

As soon as we discuss what's better,

then we can no longer argue objectively in the same way that we can in other areas

Both of us can see, and test, who lives longer. But what's better, is different for each of us

It can't be scientifically proven in the same way.

Right

And the discussion has now moved into the domain of what's better, away from what can be measured

that's why I think this topic is exhausted, for this debate.