Message from @Hagel
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@Hagel nature has end for all things. For you and humanity and the planet and the star.
I should not stop caring about bio diversity and beauty any more than you should strap yourself in a torture chamber.
If nothing really matters, then why *should* I stop?
Holocausting Jews is equal to helping them
Why *should* I not holocaust Jews?
@Hagel If you wan't to go with nature you must accept the end of the life and of your people. As it is natural to die.
What makes you think that I haven't accepted the inevitability of death?
I have, in fact
Your people, your nation, ethnicity, humanity in general will die and must die.
Your race will end.
So?
It is not important what measurements it had.
It is important to behold beauty, create beauty, and to become beautiful.
Why?
For the same reason you choose to avoid being tortured
It is important to you
Why does wood burn?
Why does water freeze?
For the dopamine release?
No, not for the dopamine. I am not a hedonist
Feel of beauty is important
Addictive even
But if I was a hedonist, then it would be important to me to enjoy pleasure
Addictive nature of dopamine generates a need to repeatedly "behold beauty, create beauty, and to become beautiful"
You would have me believe that I don't *have* to do anything, so stop telling me what I have to do
You silly wanker
Beauty is not important as well as dopamine.
It is important to me
As surely as water can freeze or turn to gas
Switch to serotonin.
And you'll notice, if you examine yourself, that you also have things that you care about
because those values are part of your nature
Those values are instinctual and related to genes
So?
They don't have abstract significance.
I do not buy this shit. Instinct is different from logic.
Why do you accept your values, but not mine?
You have your values, and I have mine
This is the way the world is