Message from Thomas Ryan in Front And Center #activism


2017-11-27 17:30:33 UTC  

hmmm

2017-11-27 17:30:42 UTC  

yea it may be good, but not for PF

2017-11-27 17:31:44 UTC  

My criticism of the "this is our home" design is that the symbolism should be a bit more... masculine. Our target demographic isn't women here, and the wheatfields stuff gets a bit played out.

Rugged pioneer-explorer-conqueror-warrior, not so much motherly figures.

2017-11-27 17:31:54 UTC  

A lot of our posters are politically oriented. Am playing around with trying to reach man's emotions like family

2017-11-27 17:32:22 UTC  

ehhh I guess it depends on who you are recruiting

2017-11-27 17:32:52 UTC  

are men not attracted to imagery of women?

2017-11-27 17:33:27 UTC  

On swimsuit magazines, sure, but not for organizations based on radical street activism.

2017-11-27 17:33:46 UTC  

understandable

2017-11-27 17:34:07 UTC  

but defending the family is a motiivation for lot of us

2017-11-27 17:34:16 UTC  

but maybe that is not good for recruiting

2017-11-27 17:34:46 UTC  

Family stuff is for actually doing, and we can promote it that way, showing that people are actually doing it, having big meets with families, things like that.

But when it comes to activism, that's the outward set of teeth, aggression, power, forward momentum, attack attack attack, is the feeling you should be going for.

2017-11-27 17:34:51 UTC  

it kind of humanizes the org in a way

2017-11-27 17:35:09 UTC  

i see

2017-11-27 17:35:32 UTC  

so more aggressive and power oriented designs?

2017-11-27 17:36:23 UTC  

When it comes to complex things like family support and all that, **show don't tell.** We can show our community of family oriented guys, and it'll do way better than just telling people we're pro family in a poster.

2017-11-27 17:36:46 UTC  

not to sound like a jerk, but what is the exact purpose of the posters

2017-11-27 17:36:50 UTC  

to trigger and to recruit

2017-11-27 17:36:53 UTC  

?

2017-11-27 17:37:11 UTC  

Yes, in a nutshell

2017-11-27 17:37:19 UTC  

Also, they're widely circulated, and form as a basis for promoting a brand, of sorts.

2017-11-27 17:37:32 UTC  

On top of that, they help bring people up to speed with small scale activism.

2017-11-27 17:37:38 UTC  

So they can work their way up.

2017-11-27 17:37:54 UTC  

yea that makes sense

2017-11-27 17:38:24 UTC  

my fav poster right now is the welcome one

2017-11-27 17:38:59 UTC  

because I think it is actually something that has a clear meaninful message. How all that is good is under attack. I wanted to go more in that direction.

2017-11-27 17:39:07 UTC  

Not here not ever with the eagle will always get me.

2017-11-27 17:40:13 UTC  

i guess symbols about communism and jews are powerful and recruit a certain awaken individual

2017-11-27 17:40:42 UTC  

For instance, with the "this is our home" slogan, it could benefit from adding in a call to action in the form of "fight for it!" as well. And showing an idealized figure of an activist with a flag and mask, or something of that caliber.

2017-11-27 17:40:59 UTC  

I agree

2017-11-27 17:41:12 UTC  

call to actions are empowerig and are our core, since we are activists

2017-11-27 18:01:58 UTC  

If you're looking for working ideas maybe find old pictures or artwork of pioneers / settlers / cowboy like images with men armed leading their family into the frontier sort of thing.

Love family centered images because that is why I am here but an image of a baby or a white women alone is not enough maybe.

I think images that are masculine and aggressive both trigger Marxist trash which means spotlight and also shames/challenges/inspires young men to rise to the fight. Images that are too soft even if they are something precious don't hit all the points at once. Only my opinion.

2017-11-27 18:02:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364051970409103362/384765999343337492/Posterity4.png

2017-11-27 18:02:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364051970409103362/384766002719883274/Posterity1.png

2017-11-27 18:02:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364051970409103362/384766005433466880/Posterity3.png

2017-11-27 18:03:13 UTC  

Something like these?

2017-11-27 18:07:13 UTC  

#3 is strong

2017-11-27 18:18:39 UTC  

yea #3

2017-11-27 18:20:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364051970409103362/384770452276379648/home_v2.png

2017-11-27 18:20:28 UTC  

This is a rough draft, but has a more activist look

2017-11-27 18:22:58 UTC  

Interesting, something like that. Also, the lower banner has the logos far too small to make out, and any minor printing errors will make the text hard or impossible to read. I do my best to keep my text a bit away from the margin of error, so none gets cut off.

2017-11-27 18:24:03 UTC  

Good points.