Message from @catholic

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2018-11-13 23:15:33 UTC  

do people in brazil remember the dictatorship?

2018-11-13 23:16:06 UTC  

sort of, he's trying to 'redpill' people into thinking it was actually a pretty chill time

2018-11-13 23:16:55 UTC  

I think scare mongering the left/ the poor is the way to go

2018-11-13 23:17:49 UTC  

there's like tons of videos on police brutallity, shit like cops shooting an old man with grocerie bags in the slums

2018-11-13 23:18:03 UTC  

that was effective propaganda but lefties usually don't spread those

2018-11-13 23:22:03 UTC  

yeah

2018-11-13 23:22:10 UTC  

too bad he already won the election

2018-11-13 23:22:49 UTC  

I was reading some stuff about the Cambridge Analytica thing and how Steve Bannon frames his right wing populism and thinking about how the left could build it's own pageantry

2018-11-13 23:23:03 UTC  

maybe coding bots redpilling ppl about how Lula is innocent

2018-11-13 23:23:22 UTC  

using Machine Learnig to determine what to respond or something like it

2018-11-13 23:23:42 UTC  

too late for Lula he'll be dead in 2 months max

2018-11-13 23:23:53 UTC  

Why do you say that

2018-11-13 23:24:03 UTC  

Justice ruled he is unnable to give interviews in prison

2018-11-13 23:24:12 UTC  

it was all pretty ridiculously unconstitutional

2018-11-13 23:24:43 UTC  

They deemed him as a threat to public peace and refused to let him speak, that hurt PT a lot in this ellection

2018-11-13 23:24:53 UTC  

he has great oratory and would beat bolsonaro eady

2018-11-13 23:24:55 UTC  

easy*

2018-11-13 23:25:00 UTC  

yeah I know I was arguing with a french "lawyer" yesterday about how it was illegal

2018-11-13 23:25:48 UTC  

For me I think they focused too much on him too soon

2018-11-13 23:26:06 UTC  

they didn't focus that much on actual propasals

2018-11-13 23:26:12 UTC  

true

2018-11-13 23:26:35 UTC  

bolsonaro was promising to end crime in Brazil and leftists were too PC to approach it properly

2018-11-13 23:26:37 UTC  

also in the second round they didn't fight back against the corruption accusations

2018-11-13 23:27:34 UTC  

Usually they wanted to defend how different economic backgrounds pushes people to crime ( correct ), but with people who are bombarded with videos of people getting shot by criminals

2018-11-13 23:28:07 UTC  

That was a horrible approach

2018-11-13 23:28:30 UTC  

Instead of fear mongering people about what would gun reform and police brutality

2018-11-13 23:28:35 UTC  

do*

2018-11-13 23:28:40 UTC  

yeah ignoring the most important issue on voters minds tends to not be a great startgy

2018-11-13 23:30:58 UTC  

The PSOL party doubled its caucus though

2018-11-13 23:32:26 UTC  

I actually started agreeing with Bolsonaro until one leftie girl said to me "It's not about having pitty for criminals, it's about me selfishly not wanting to be robbed or killed by them based on what works" The left didn't even try to sell it's solution as the true road to end crime but just focused on how criminals are victims of the system

2018-11-13 23:32:47 UTC  

yeah but I don't think it means much compared to Bolsonaro

2018-11-13 23:32:55 UTC  

PSOL is mostly idpol

2018-11-13 23:33:08 UTC  

at least that's how its perceived

2018-11-13 23:33:25 UTC  

i'll be in the trap with a wooly hat on like a russian

2018-11-13 23:34:25 UTC  

People are now calling everything that goes against him as communist, I think that can be used to take the meaning and fear our of actual communism just like idpols did with nazis in the US.

2018-11-13 23:34:36 UTC  

hitler was a national socialist

2018-11-13 23:34:37 UTC  

out of actual communism*

2018-11-13 23:35:01 UTC  

Some of his speech were socialist, in execution he was as far as you get

2018-11-13 23:35:41 UTC  

Some of his speeches were socialist, in execution he just cuddled with industries*

2018-11-13 23:36:19 UTC  

national socialist

2018-11-13 23:36:21 UTC  

He promised land reform but never came around to doing so