Message from @Hooty
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on the part of the employer?
yes
He doesn't even know what capital is @DA GOMMIE JOO
okay
so we can come to the conclusion that your employer takes more value from your labor than they return to you through wages
therefore, your wages are worth less than your labor
Are you saying you can’t buy equipment with your money?
therefore, you are losing value
You can’t buy the means of production?
no, that never comes into it
that's something else entirely
Yes you can
this is not covering self-employment
this is covering traditional businesses
you have just agreed to a series of statements, the conclusion of which is that wages are theft
do you see any flaws here?
You could buy a 3-D printer and make your own toys from home
for example
this only applies to traditional businesses
do you see any flaws in my reasoning from a business perspective?
I just explained it
I didn’t agree to that
you agreed to it
every step of the way
There is no compulsion
that doesn't come into it
How to remove fascism
fucking hell I can see why reformism doesn't work
You think you shouldn’t have to work at all?
"is x true?"
"yes"
"is y true?"
"yes"
"if we take the statements x and y, we can draw conclusion z. is z true?"
"wtf no I never agreed to that how'd you even get that?"
*the ride never ends*
Do you expect everything to come for free?
no
work is not the problem
I never stated it was
Clearly it is because you say it is slavery
Resorting to the strawman fallacy
I just explained to you how you are losing value by working for an employer
The problem is someone else profiting off your work