Message from @Amos
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Also its not like people who identify as nazis today are big fighters for universal heathcare or a higher minimum wage
@Adolf Hitler nazism and communism are similar in way about overcome crisis of capitalist system but difference is that nazism find this answer in reaction or establish status quo, corporativism, etatism, agressive politics and supress of bourgeois democracy, working people movement. While communism means that overcoming of capitalism establishing new mode of production and at all new system of social relations and continue of development.
The "socialist" activities done by nazis has to be taken in the context that a war was going on. Similar to all the state control the US engaged in
@pushpins many reactionaries used social demagogy even for example Russian black hundreds were for growth of welfare for workers. There was so-called "feudal socialism" in Manifesto when nobles used social demagogy for working people for its own struggle against bourgeoisie
@pushpins yes, as moment but it was answer on general crisis of capitalist system this keynsian politics with state interventions in economy.
Also I really don't support the nazi policy of *checks notes* killing all the Jews. I'm gonna say they were bad guys
that´s not socialism
Are you talking about socialism as ideology or as social-economic formation? Hitler never argued for social revolution, his antisemitism and critics of bourgeois democracy not take basis of capitalist economy with commodity production, class society. Supress of individual capitalists and state regulation not reject laws of capitalist market economy.
Karl Marx was also an antisemitic, racist person
@Amos mmm, its interesting, where did you read that?
two buzzwords invented by two jews @Amos
And where in his works he argued that Jews are shit for ubermenschen?
You can read it in the letters of Karl Marx
What letter?
Concrete
@Musketar (Alex) Akstinat says that Marx and Engels lived like parasites, claiming money from others and condemning them for their lifestyle at the same time. In the Eastern bloc they would have been worshiped as gods, but in fact they were not good models. According to Akstinat, the problem at the time of the Eastern Bloc was that it was published only very selectively via Marx and Engels - in fact only what suited the Communist rulers. This resulted in a completely wrong picture of the two. In reality, they did not care much about understanding between nations, much more they had blasphemed about foreign peoples and even had been very German-patriotic. A Soviet scientist who eagerly and curiously archived and wrote down all the statements of Marx and Engels was executed on Stalin's orders.
In fascism and nazism chovinism and racial discrimination is secondary thing. First is social nature which is about get capitalism out of crisis.
all of
my sources are German
@Amos From who to who letters and year. In USSR was made full translation in Russian of works and letters.
Did a little reading about these nazis, they seem like bad guys
@Musketar (Alex) Akstinat says that today many journalists would only reproduce what fits their own worldview. But if one really cares about a neutral overall picture of the two, then one can also discover the hitherto repressed sides of Marx and Engels.
„Alles, was ich weiß, ist, dass ich kein ‚Marxist‘ bin!“ (Karl Marx in Marx-Engels-Werke 37, S. 450)
„Die Franzosen brauchen Prügel“ (Karl Marx zum Deutsch-Französischen Krieg)
„Ich habe einen sicheren Plan entworfen, Deinem Alten Geld auszupressen.“ (Karl Marx in einem Brief an Engels)
„Komplettere Esel als diese Arbeiter gibt es wohl nicht.“ (Marx über die Menschen, die seine „Revolution“ verwirklichen sollten)
„Ich dehne diesen Band (des Kapitals) mehr aus, da die deutschen Hunde den Wert der Bücher nach dem Kubikinhalt schätzen.“ (Karl Marx)
I want original letter not another fake
https://en.rightpedia.info/w/Antisemitism
https://en.rightpedia.info/w/Racist
https://en.rightpedia.info/w/How_racist_are_you_test
http://www.renegadetribune.com/?s=racist
http://www.renegadetribune.com/?s=anti+semitic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7reAjVM1RY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kWAqZxJVE
@Musketar (Alex) I don´t think that you can speak German
How most of this quotes connected to antisemitism and racism?
The letters and articles also show that Marx was a pronounced anti-Semite and racist. He wrote to his political friend Arnold Ruge how "disgusting" he was with "the Israelite faith." His text "To the Jewish Question" (1843) lays the spiritual foundations for pure anti-Semitic hate: "What is the secular reason of Judaism?" The practical need, the self-interest, what is the secular worship of the Jews, the chess, which is its temporal God ? The money." Marx's passages about Jews sometimes read like Nazi original texts. Judaism is "a universal contemporary anti-social element." In Jewish religion, "contempt for theory, art, history, and humanity is an end in itself." Even "the woman is deceived."
His letters also expose Marx as racists. Thus, Ferdinand Lassalle, the founder of the General German Workers' Association and political competitor of Marx, because of his Jewish origins only as Jüdel Braun, Ephraim Gescheit and Itzig is denigrated. After Lasalle visited him in London in 1862, Marx insulted him as a "Jewish Nigger Lasalle," and wrote: "It is now quite clear to me that, as his hair and head are, he is descended from Negroes who follow the trait of the Moses from Egypt joined in. Well, this combination of Judaism and Germanism with the Negroid ground substance must produce a strange product. "The boy's importunity is also nigger." Even his own son-in-law Paul Lafarge, whose mother was a Cuban creole, he humiliated in a letter to his daughter Jenny as "Negrillo" and "descendant of a gorilla."
@Amos thankfully our jewish bolsheviks we in Russia study German and French. And we beat up civilizators from West like nazis and their collaborators.
@Amos you didn't read work about Jewish question))
There was no antisemitism
look them up
cunt
It's like claim that Lenin was rusophob when argues about orthodox religion and Great-Russian chovinism