Message from @metricfern (jezza)
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i you know it THEN SHOW IT TO US! destroy us, make us stfu and end this
mr e
are you having fun
what are you doing here then
learning what
why did you need that knowledge?
KHRUSHCHEV @DA GOMMIE JOO
so why are you here?
what have you learned ehre
kjn
"I learned a ton of others"
Proof
A great deal has been written and said about the burden of proof, and certain misconceptions have arisen about the duty of the affirmative. The rule is simple:
Rule 5a. He who asserts must prove.
This principle applies equally to the two teams. Of course, the affirmative must show that its plan is desirable, which means that it must show that some benefits will result; otherwise it has failed to give reason for adopting the plan, and has lost the debate. The commonly heard statement that "the affirmative has the burden of proof" means that and nothing more.
On the other hand, if the negative wants the judge and audience to accept the idea that there are certain defects which outweigh the plan's good points, then it must assume the burden of proving that such disadvantages actually will result.
If the negative introduces a counterplan, it has the burden of showing how it is better than the affirmative's proposal; the affirmative then has the duty of establishing any alleged objections to the counterplan. In every instance, he who asserts must prove.
name three
taht are useful
Rule 5b. In order to establish an assertion, the team must support it with enough evidence and logic to convince an intelligent but previously uninformed person that it is more reasonable to believe the assertion than to disbelieve it.
The amount of proof required in debating is generally less than that required in law. In law, the jury must be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty in order to convict him; in debating, an assertion is established if it is supported by the weight of evidence and logic, even though there still may be room for doubt.
One further distinction is this: In law the jury may disbelieve evidence, even though its accuracy is not disputed. In debating, the judge is measuring the relative skill of the two teams, not deciding the "bedrock merits" of the matter in question. Therefore he is required to accept as valid all arguments backed with reasonable proof (as defined above) until overthrown by the opposing team.
A debate coach once remarked, "The implications here are pretty strong. Does this mean that the judge cannot penalize a team which uses a bare-faced lie as proof? Why not manufacture your evidence?" His point is well taken. Manufactured evidence is so rare in debate as to be almost non-existent, but conceivably it might happen some time. In that event, the following rule would cover the situation:
Rule 5c. Facts, presented in a debate as such, must be accurate.
If the judge is certain that the evidence is deliberately falsified, he is justified in giving the decision to the other team on this point alone. More often, it is simply a matter of interpretation of evidence, and if some error in logic is present, it is up to the other team to find it and point it out.
Rule 5d. Any restatement or quotation of an opponent's argument must be accurate.
A word-for-word quotation, in context, is ideal. This is ordinarily possible when the quotation is short or when one of the members of the team knows shorthand. Under most circumstances, however, the debater finds it necessary to paraphrase his opponent's remarks; for this purpose he needs careful notes and an understanding of his opponent's intent.
Misquotation, whether deliberate or not, unfairly places the other team in a false position and should be studiously avoided.
mr e
you have no reason to be here
Mr E " I know how debates work better tha you do"
Mr. gEy
that isnt a sentence
I find it austic to find easy to find info for others?
"i find it autistic to find easy to find into for tohers
that means nothing
that isnt english
the sentence doesnt make sense
mr e was in this helicopte
I find it autistic to find easy to find info for others
Mr E "I will ignore the rules of debate established in GB's parlament and the rest of the world"
unharmed physically
but mentally it ruined you
thats what they all say
I find it autistic to find easy to find info for others
dont confuse me with you