OK but they are going to force you to do what they want also

it doesnt destroy incentive it aims to lessen the financial incentive as it is not the best incentive to have

so would you rather work a job you hate without pay?

I'm a dutch immigrant in the USA and you call me a primitivist.
I work as a mechanic just to have taxes taken out of my check .
The tax payers money is being spent on things that don't effect me

no, I'd rather work a job for something I have a passion for regardless of income

OK but that doesn't put food on the table

more like having the resources freely available to work the job(s) you do want without having to worry about pay

it does in a socialist society

why would you get paid for crap?

It takes money to make money

rewarded for producing nothing of value

and the idea that you are paid the same and there is not incentive is simply a myth

like say you love painting, but all your art is crap and nobody wants to buy it

you get what you give to society

you think they should still pay you for it?

why are you still assuming there are markets under socialism?

Income tax checks don't help for shit

Quick way to make everything go bankrupt and downgrade society

lmao artists

what use do they have

how do they give to society exactly

all value is subjective

that's one reason markets are bad

how to capitalists give to society

they leech off of it

you have never enjoyed a piece of art?

I have but its not a necessity

socialism doesn't value happiness or satisfaction does it

artists are often successful only after they die

it does

capitalism does not

this is nonsense, look at vietnam, idiot, "HAPPYIEST COUNTRY IN ALL OF ASIA"

you think things have objective value

On my next income tax check I'm getting a beer

which you can determine

Heineken

you can determine the value of something by utility

by necessity

capitalism also overproduces, it is wasteful

Capitalism produces value, Socialism steals value

Bills are like a septic tank once it over flows shit is everywhere.