so when I finished it just reinforced my initial disgust

an awful truth is better than a 'good lie'

there was never an afterlife

i mean, idrc about the quran that much. if it was that oppressive, then people who gets out of the middle east would try to downplay its role instead of trying to expand it, but that isnt the case

it was made up

"an awful truth is better than a 'good lie'" how so?

I just explained

why would it be better for society knowing that whatever they do will have no affect in anything on a cosmic scale?

you think thats good for people who are depressed and have nowhere to turn to?

even if it _is_ made up the teachings of many religion

still help people be guided to the moral path

there is no objective meaning to life

you must find your own

people who can't unfortunately face that fate far too often

fine, but you are still ignorant for removing all religion because it does not embody 100% truth and honesty

religion is man made, though

we can at least agree on that

religion is a good moral path. if it meant people believing that there is a flying spaghetti monster for them to live a life of humility and respectableness then so be it. make the world a better place

yeah

sure i guesss i cant really say

I wouldnt say it makes it a better place exactly

it has the potential to

how does teaching people be moral not lead to a better place?

the subject of morality is metaphysical

most small religious communities in the usa tend to be more friendly than big cities that arent religious like nyc

as a materialist I do not concern myself with this

morality is subjective

you can have things like heaven's gate

more friendly? sheesh

like the Amish communities who practice incest and give birth to deformed children and fend off outsiders?

morality is _partly_ subjective. there are objective morality out there. but leaving people open with subjective morality in mind would just lead to chaos. a society would require an objective moral code, and religion fits this mold.

heavens gate and other cult-ish things are a minority. you overinflate the bad things of religion that it covers the good thing about it

you do not have to overinflate what is already a big issue to understand that it is one

amish communities are a big issue?

the basis is the same

the fact that the US government isn't intervening is

its a free country

they're horrible

theres no point in intervening...

they arent free

amish people are horrible? lol