Message from @TheTeacher

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2019-03-03 04:40:31 UTC  

socratically

2019-03-03 04:40:34 UTC  

are you a revisionist

2019-03-03 04:40:42 UTC  

I am not going to answer that.

2019-03-03 04:40:43 UTC  

would you agree that idpol is revisionism?

2019-03-03 04:40:49 UTC  

yay or nay

2019-03-03 04:40:51 UTC  

I'd agree you're a fucking moron.

2019-03-03 04:40:59 UTC  

sniff sniff

2019-03-03 04:41:02 UTC  

smells like

2019-03-03 04:41:04 UTC  

Hello, Zizek.

2019-03-03 04:41:04 UTC  

no argument

2019-03-03 04:41:23 UTC  

And here we are screaming past one another and not getting at anything.

2019-03-03 04:41:28 UTC  

We really are two Zizeks.

2019-03-03 04:41:33 UTC  

well then let’s talk

2019-03-03 04:41:35 UTC  

if you wanna be serious

2019-03-03 04:41:44 UTC  

do you believe that idpol is revisionism

2019-03-03 04:41:45 UTC  

?

2019-03-03 04:41:56 UTC  

I tried to, it was you who went off the rails and once again I am not going to play into your framework.

2019-03-03 04:42:09 UTC  

That would be stupid of me. You're setting me up for a gotcha.

2019-03-03 04:42:15 UTC  

present an argument that isn’t ‘you’re defensive trite’

2019-03-03 04:42:16 UTC  

I know you're a bad faith moron.

2019-03-03 04:42:27 UTC  

Okay, then you're a bad faith moron.

2019-03-03 04:42:31 UTC  

still waiting on that argument buddy

2019-03-03 04:42:50 UTC  

You're an awful comrade.

2019-03-03 04:42:56 UTC  

But here is my argument.

2019-03-03 04:42:56 UTC  

still waiting on that argument buddy

2019-03-03 04:43:09 UTC  

you came out to me being hostile but ok

2019-03-03 04:43:13 UTC  

^^^

2019-03-03 04:43:48 UTC  

Identity Politics are linked to everything. Two bits we leftism talk about identity. Class and Consumer. These are identities we know definitely exist, but they are identities. So then why do we get worked up when other identities fall into the mix?

2019-03-03 04:44:01 UTC  

We claim identity politics divide the working class, but this only happens sometimes.

2019-03-03 04:44:29 UTC  

Race, sex, gender, and other can rip us apart if misunderstood or taken too far. You claiming idpol is toxic is rushed and poorly thought out.

2019-03-03 04:45:23 UTC  

What we need to do is not rip ourselves apart over this, but come to an understanding that all of these things play a role and work in tandem with one another. Black, for instance, is an identity linked to being poor and possibly criminal while white stands for being upper class and proper.

2019-03-03 04:45:47 UTC  

In other words, we need a mix of class consciousness and identity politics.

2019-03-03 04:45:52 UTC  

There, that is my argument.

2019-03-03 04:46:04 UTC  

By the way, worst identity is consumer.

2019-03-03 04:46:13 UTC  

Like those liberals who think consumption can be activism.

2019-03-03 04:49:03 UTC  

While I agree it is important to acknowledge the secondary contradiction of being a black american, the redditor’s emphasis on black and labeling themself as a (person of color) is literally reverse jim crow. the primary contradiction still stands. liberalism is quick and easy bandaids to much bigger problems. that being the contradiction of worker and capitalist. the BPP new this, and although routed themselves as black peoples, they acknowledged that the single most pressing issue is that of class and their relation to the MOP. By putting any issue above class, you’re engaging in liberalism as defined by Mao, and therefor you’re a revisionist who seeks a temporary problem to a solution that effects all. Black people haven’t always been the only poor people and white peoples haven’t. there are poor black and white people all over the world. blacks that own the MOP and don’t. Whites that do and don’t. by saying X group does Y, we are focusing our efforts not on capitalism but instead an issue that is the result of the primary contradiction of capitalism. Also to use idpol is unmaterialist because you’re abandoning the base for the superstructure

2019-03-03 04:49:11 UTC  

Fbi crime statistics

2019-03-03 04:51:04 UTC  

literally this server

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/551627583633227797/43c.jpg

2019-03-03 04:51:42 UTC  

zizek is based because he doesnt take himself seriously

2019-03-03 04:51:59 UTC  

zizek can’t take a solid position on anything

2019-03-03 04:52:12 UTC  

why is internationalism good?