exactly

Holy shit you guys really would enjoy reading Chomsky

and that's not even

Gnoma Chomsky the outdated anarchist?

Outdated is a little harsh, but yes. Noam Chomsky. You guys are literally saying shit that he talks about

And tbh it's pretty interesting to read

Like most people get fucking terrified when they hear the word socialist because they associate it with the Soviet Union

Chomsky along with any scholar worth his salt will tell you that the biggest problem that happened there was that Lenin and Stalin both centralized their power within the state under their own personal rule

well yeah

socialism in its purest form is supposed to be a basic direct democracy with an industry and economic characteristics based on the culture surrounding the nation

example: Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, Soviet Socialism

but the land grabbers come and start demanding shit and it gets real fucky from there

That's why an armed society is a polite society

Its a paradox

There's a lot of socialist ideas I agree with I just don't like a government having that much control

Hence why you should read Chomsky

Full state democracy will never exist

He argues in favor of a decentralized concept

You don't need to instill it at a state level

That's the fucking problem every revolution has xD

This is what cracks me up

People keep on thinking that they can just use a government to conduct socialism or even communism

in my personal opinion socialism is outdated of Marx's teachings. And other than Chomsky or the scandinavian welfare state, there is no modern derivitive of socialism

No one wants a direct democracy. I'm in favor of the republic still

But they forget that Marx literally stated that communism is a post-capitalist, stateless, classless society

STATELESS

That's the word they miss

Marx can lick my star spangled ding dong

No borders, and no government

ok

n o

please no

i enjoy my nationalism

I'm not saying I agree with the idea of implementing it, I'm just explaining why it is that every single revolution fails because of this

aye

You cannot have communism in a society that has borders and government, and borders and government will always exist because it's human fucking nature

That's just fact

You can't argue it because look at history. After every period of lawlessness and chaos, a government is formed

This is also why anarcho-communism is an oxymoron

thank god you said that

Because when you understand that Marx actually believed in dismantling the concepts of government and border, or the state, you realize that anarcho communism is just communism