Message from @KizzaGT

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2019-12-30 00:40:57 UTC  

Germany is the least democratic in Europe imo

2019-12-30 00:41:04 UTC  

germany wasnt in a united form till late so it shouldnt be counted

2019-12-30 00:41:11 UTC  

same thing with italy, very very old democratic states

2019-12-30 00:41:12 UTC  

the volk law is more important than individual sovereignty

2019-12-30 00:41:14 UTC  

Anyways the argument of "regional representation" is quite braindead

2019-12-30 00:41:19 UTC  

People vote, not land

2019-12-30 00:41:33 UTC  

the thought of people like andrew being able to vote is braindead

2019-12-30 00:41:47 UTC  

If more people live in area x than area y then area x should obviously have a bigger say in the democratic process

2019-12-30 00:41:59 UTC  

yeah is that how that works andrew?

2019-12-30 00:42:09 UTC  

The UK is definitely the most advanced in this regard, but that is probably because we've been pushing it since the days of Magna Carta <:shrug:349342983763656705>

2019-12-30 00:42:18 UTC  

so does that mean that those people should have greater say on for example how the government spends its money?

2019-12-30 00:42:26 UTC  

However it isn't perfect and is definitely flawed still

2019-12-30 00:42:31 UTC  

so does that mean that they have a greater say on where the government allocates its budget?

2019-12-30 00:42:41 UTC  

I call BS on that. IF democracy was enforced in the UK the overwhelming majority of policies/decisions wouldn't have happened.

2019-12-30 00:42:44 UTC  

so does that mean that they can spend more on roads for the cities than in the country?

2019-12-30 00:42:51 UTC  

despite the need of the country being greater?

2019-12-30 00:42:56 UTC  

"Greater say on for example how the government spend its money" this is pointless lmao

2019-12-30 00:42:58 UTC  

NAh Kizza

2019-12-30 00:43:11 UTC  

one of many examples and it shows that literal equal representation is retarded

2019-12-30 00:43:13 UTC  

see the issue is you are thinking direct democracy, direct democracies don't work

2019-12-30 00:43:19 UTC  

Did the majority of the UK vote/support joining the EEC in 1972??

2019-12-30 00:43:27 UTC  

"yeah fuck fixing that bridge, this city street has pot holes that need filling"

2019-12-30 00:43:34 UTC  

<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-12-30 00:43:41 UTC  

You need some form of representation however direct democracy should be invoked on soul or constitutional changing events- ie BRexit

2019-12-30 00:43:43 UTC  

@Storin Name one example of it not working??

2019-12-30 00:43:44 UTC  

You do realize the citizens don't directly decide the amount of resources being spent on infrastructure development in different areas, right?

2019-12-30 00:44:08 UTC  

you realize that giving more representation to people from cities by definition means the people in rural areas have less representation

2019-12-30 00:44:09 UTC  

Direct democracy is actual democracy. Representative democracy is neither representative nor democracy.

2019-12-30 00:44:15 UTC  

and thus less say in reource allocation right?

2019-12-30 00:44:16 UTC  

No it isn't.

2019-12-30 00:44:26 UTC  

literally how for example state legislatures work

2019-12-30 00:44:34 UTC  

Its weird that you are picking this hill to die on, why dont you study greek democracy then come back to me <:PepeLaugh:565528391336329216>

2019-12-30 00:44:35 UTC  

and in the greater congrss thats how representatives work

2019-12-30 00:44:38 UTC  

Well of course, because that's obviously how it works

2019-12-30 00:44:53 UTC  

and youre retarded for wanting it to work otherwise

2019-12-30 00:44:55 UTC  

xD

2019-12-30 00:45:07 UTC  

@Storin Except the definition of democracy from the greeks is power of the people which means MOB RULE.

2019-12-30 00:45:13 UTC  

No it isnt

2019-12-30 00:45:15 UTC  

Yeah I already lost interest in this

2019-12-30 00:45:18 UTC  

This is pointless

2019-12-30 00:45:23 UTC  

because you know youre being dumb