because they couldnt get into the rest of the country anyway

You wouldn't have mass migration if the USA had a solid border and turrets that shot illegals on sight.

@Lucienne d'Anwyl if they collapse California because California is being retarded and can’t support their trendy policy then puts the burden on the rest of the Union it is a fucking loss

The thing is, if every state was forced to worry about their own problems, and couldn’t rely on the federal government for assistance... the border states would enforce the border.

california is already a shithole state

the only reason why california is worth anything is because companies that were built there when california wasnt a shithole are still there

and of couse going along with the massive wealth gap

lmao states don't have solid borders

a large amount of american elite live there

it hurts the entire country to have illegals

IF only silicon valley was moved out of california.

Ok and when all the local Californians leave the state in droves cause it’s shit and import their cancerous ideas into other states is that also not a loss to the rest of us?

if you cross the border into or out of California all they do is check you for fucking veggies

@ubermensch Again, *they already do that*.

@ubermensch states should have the right to deny immigrants the ability to vote

They already are uber

At least this way the states receiving them have more control to mitigate the damage.

@Scale_e and you don’t think the federal government has no jurisdiction to intervene in that

The states themselves should be able to intervene in that.

"lets vote this in" *states goes to shit* "ok lets go somewhere better" *votes shit in that state* and it repeats

So to conclude my argument sums down to: American citizens should live under the same laws, regardless of the state they are in

How about we make sure California doesn’t tie a rope around us and jumps off a cliff expecting the rest of us to catch them over migration

your argument is dumb and so are you

In my view different laws for different states are catastrophically stupid

then you might as well do away with states andrew

And just have a central authority, but that is probably the least democratic system ever

andrew your jewishness and trust of people in power is catastrphically stupid lol

Jews are fine.

No they aint <:PepeLaugh:565528391336329216>

stfu sympathizer

@Storin Given that you don't actually support democracy I find this laughable.

Lol

states shouldn't be able to do immigration. if someone moves to america the national gov should be in charge of that

while it may (or may not) make sense to make electric bicycles illegal in my area, seems to be an issue for NY

why should I have to go by a law that isnt applicable to my area?

Federal needs to deal with military, borders, and foreign policy, everything else that is domestic should be dealt with at state level, though even lower is preferable

whats wrong with electric bicycles?

A California that receives no federal assistance would, pretty much instantaneously, change its behavior.

@Storin that’s the point. Californians out of their self centered moral fagging have essentially turned their own state into a dump. And now show up to everyone else’s door asking if they can drag their feet in and ignore the fire they caused in the background.

I guess hipsters kill people on sidewalks or something in nyc

I donno, I just seen louis bitching about it