Message from @𝕷𝖊𝖛𝖎𝖆𝖙𝖍𝖆𝖓

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2019-12-14 15:59:59 UTC  

I bet you there are many WN's who agree with my views

2019-12-14 16:00:37 UTC  

They're not a monolith that supports Hitler, they have diverse opinions on him.

2019-12-14 16:50:52 UTC  

@ETBrooD you're a WN?

2019-12-14 16:53:25 UTC  

No

2019-12-14 16:54:33 UTC  

Aight

2019-12-14 16:55:48 UTC  

There's honor in war when being fair to an extent

2019-12-14 16:56:41 UTC  

So there is no honor in war then

2019-12-14 16:56:47 UTC  

There's honor in fairness

2019-12-14 16:57:21 UTC  

Honor is literally etiquette in fighting

2019-12-14 16:57:50 UTC  

When you say there's honor in fairness, you sound like a commie

2019-12-14 16:58:05 UTC  

wut

2019-12-14 16:58:07 UTC  

Splain

2019-12-14 16:58:29 UTC  

~~No~~ for which one?

2019-12-14 16:59:42 UTC  

You said there's honor in being fair in war, but then you said seeing honor in fairness makes you a commie

2019-12-14 17:00:35 UTC  

Being fair in war comes down to soldier v soldier

2019-12-14 17:00:47 UTC  

Typically

2019-12-14 17:00:54 UTC  

Not really, soldiers have orders

2019-12-14 17:01:28 UTC  

The generals are the ones who need to worry about fairness, the soldiers have no responsibility unless a higher order demands them to disobey

2019-12-14 17:02:14 UTC  

You're thinking too much about modern warfare which is too complex and makes analogies complex

2019-12-14 17:02:28 UTC  

I'm not thinking about modern warfare no

2019-12-14 17:02:35 UTC  

Think medieval or before
Ok, fine

2019-12-14 17:02:50 UTC  

Think of a small-scale battle

2019-12-14 17:03:07 UTC  

I think of any battle

2019-12-14 17:03:42 UTC  

Sure

2019-12-14 17:04:08 UTC  

Let's say a 1v1 happens

2019-12-14 17:04:14 UTC  

No guns

2019-12-14 17:04:23 UTC  

Just melee combat

2019-12-14 17:04:45 UTC  

These soldiers have the idea of 'honorable combat' drilled into their heads

2019-12-14 17:04:55 UTC  

What will they do?

2019-12-14 17:05:04 UTC  

Do they have orders to kill one another?

2019-12-14 17:05:27 UTC  

It is a battle in which the two armies are facing one another

2019-12-14 17:05:29 UTC  

Yes

2019-12-14 17:05:48 UTC  

Then they don't need to worry about honor at that point, unless the situation changes and thus different orders come into play

2019-12-14 17:08:12 UTC  

1v1: the soldiers are alone - they will fight
1v1: there is a retreating soldier and a soldier in pursuit - the soldier in pursuit may have no intention of letting the soldier go, due to orders being such, but he has the idea of honorable combat. What will happen?

2019-12-14 17:09:50 UTC  

That's still the same situation

2019-12-14 17:09:52 UTC  

Retreat or not

2019-12-14 17:10:04 UTC  

If the order is to kill, then it is to kill

2019-12-14 17:10:06 UTC  

Retreat or not

2019-12-14 17:10:11 UTC  

Surrender however would be different

2019-12-14 17:11:13 UTC  

So what I'm getting is that you don't know what honorable combat is in the first place, romanticized or how it was historically

2019-12-14 17:11:42 UTC  

wut