Message from @Xenon

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2019-12-09 19:42:11 UTC  

like what in the holy crispy kentucky fried fuck

2019-12-09 19:42:22 UTC  

He can just spy on anyone he wants anytime he wants? What the fuck is this

2019-12-09 19:42:25 UTC  

You do know Carter Page used to live in Moscow, right? He was an investment banker there. The SVR attempted to recruit him back in 2013.

2019-12-09 19:42:44 UTC  

There's not really any good information on carter page and living in Russia doesn't mean he was working for the Russians

2019-12-09 19:42:56 UTC  

The supposed evidence is hearsay largely stemming from Steele's information which is effectivley worthless

2019-12-09 19:43:22 UTC  

i heard hitler once breathed air, and so did trump, so impeach

2019-12-09 19:43:24 UTC  

They found nothing on page, although they found irrelevant non-russian connected information to various people in trump's campaign, which is like hundreds of people

2019-12-09 19:43:58 UTC  

for example paul manafort worked for the democrats when his supposed tax crime was committed, that is failing to sign a form

2019-12-09 19:44:08 UTC  

living in moscow is not a crime, and on its own is not evidence of being a russian spy

2019-12-09 19:45:18 UTC  

Carter Page is referenced in that indictment. Those individuals were working for the SVR, conducting espionage on U.S. soil.

2019-12-09 19:45:36 UTC  

that's the allegation

2019-12-09 19:45:41 UTC  

there is no solid proof is the problem

2019-12-09 19:46:07 UTC  

That's not an allegation. Perhaps in Moscow material evidence is no indicator of truth, but not in the United States.

2019-12-09 19:46:14 UTC  

That bullshit defense isn't going to fly over here, buddy.

2019-12-09 19:46:15 UTC  

an indictment isnt a verdict, or am i crazy?

2019-12-09 19:46:58 UTC  

No an indictment is not proof of a crime, indicting someone is just calling them forwards to testify/allowing you to investigate them

2019-12-09 19:47:26 UTC  

The evidence is referenced in the complaint filed.

2019-12-09 19:47:35 UTC  

They had the subjects under surveillance.

2019-12-09 19:47:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967610706526210/653684183151017992/unknown.png

2019-12-09 19:47:50 UTC  

bare in mind, page has never been convicted of anything

2019-12-09 19:47:56 UTC  

They suspected him of something based on bad evidence

2019-12-09 19:48:00 UTC  

false information

2019-12-09 19:48:03 UTC  

in the US we presume innocent until proven guilty in a court of law

2019-12-09 19:48:30 UTC  

what page is carter page mentioned

2019-12-09 19:48:49 UTC  

Also, we had internal communications between officials in the Kremlin, discussing individuals within the Trump campaign they could leverage, Carter Page being one of them.

2019-12-09 19:49:11 UTC  

Page 12.

2019-12-09 19:49:14 UTC  

Male-1.

2019-12-09 19:49:41 UTC  

At the time of filing the complaint, his identity was not disclosed.

2019-12-09 19:50:07 UTC  

im sure the kremlin has lots of internal communications discussing a lot of things

2019-12-09 19:50:17 UTC  

they probably talked about who they could leverage in clintons campaign too

2019-12-09 19:50:19 UTC  

"Based on my training , experience, and participatio n
i n thi s investigation , I believ e that , i n thi s conversation , IGOR
SPORYSHEV and VICTOR PODOBNYY, the defendants, discussed PODOBNYY's
attempted use of Male-1 as an intelligenc e source fo r Russia.
PODOBNYY state d tha t PODOBNYY had emailed wit h Male-1 ("[Male-1]
wrote tha t he i s sorry") , who was intereste d i n business
opportunitie s i n Russia "

2019-12-09 19:50:24 UTC  

literally this is actual hearsay

2019-12-09 19:50:45 UTC  

Based not on hard evidence but his own presumptions, "training, experience" etc. he believed it happened

2019-12-09 19:50:56 UTC  

bruh

2019-12-09 19:51:01 UTC  

vibe check pls

2019-12-09 19:51:19 UTC  

"vibe check" is this a new meme?

2019-12-09 19:51:24 UTC  

No, the field-agent picked it up on voice recordings of the defendants discussing Carter Page.

2019-12-09 19:51:24 UTC  

yeah lol