it sets him apart from the robotic, synthetic politician-ness

Right, because everyone is angry, extremely angry.

trump feels like more of a real person

I'll agree with you there.

so it might "harm his credibility" in one aspect but at the same time it helps him in another

Fair enough.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

but if you read the transcript between trump and the ukraine president, there's clearly no mention of aid by Trump, and the only aid brought up is buying javelines from America by the ukraine president

Who also claims he wasn't being pressured in to investigating the bidens

And not onyl that, Trump didn't call for an investigation, just for information on an ongoing investigation to be forwarded to the state department

So the entire narrative is sort of shattered by this

the thing i love about the transcript is theres like 9 paragraphs in between mention of aid and mention of joe biden, almost as if one was not related to the other

And bear in mind the impeachment inquiry in to trump started before this transcript was released and schiff read a fake version of it before going forwards with it

I know right, and the aid was brought up by, literally the ukraine president

Trump just ignores him and is like "yeah but can you do a favor"

Well, I hope that memorandum matches the call recording, because the Democrats will get the recording inevitably.

and it was to buy our javeliens which is not really aid per se

it problably does only the presidnet is speaking in ukraine and this is a translation

the president of ukraine is speaking in ukranian*

also this phone call happened before joe biden ever announced he was running for 2020, so like... is trump a time traveller? does he have a crystal ball? how did he know to "spy on his opponent" before he had an opponent?

exactly, the whole thing is ridiculous

also why is it illegal for trump to spy on his opponent, but its ok for the fbi to spy on him in 2016

I'm afraid you're going a little too strong on the defense, as Biden announced he was running in April, and the call unfolded months afterward, in July...

Careful not to hurt your oratorical credibility, in the future.

lol what

April, May, June, July...

April 25, 2019, was the day Biden announced his candidacy; the Ukraine call took place on July, 25, 2019.

🤔

the call happened before biden announced, the "whistleblower" came forward later

25th and 25th.

Very interesting.

well

https://tenor.com/view/coincidence-ithink-not-coincidence-ithink-not-the-incredibles-gif-5096707

the exact day

is literally

of 0 import

maybe my timeline is wrong idk

You know how Trump loves to send messages. 😉

A subtle "you can't get me."

that sounds too convoluted for Trump

point is: if the reason we spy on trump is russian collusion, then the same exact logic applies to biden for ukrainian collusion, no?