@Retro with a Jew no less

Would you say it’s better and more effective if a group narrowed its own sights on only getting together with people within their particular group?

Because their more pressured to a specific group in terms or who they are trying to continue family traditions

I think the success of the left is a failure of the right. A sort of weakness that allowed them to subvert language and change the definitions of words. They've made us think that noticing any difference at all between races is racist. That's not what racism is. Racism is when in the old days they'd get together and lynch someone for no reason. It's enslaving an entire race of people. It's saying they can only sit in the back of the bus

i think cooperation based on tribal factors can lead to positive outcomes

Regarding the Black Plague, killing off a third of the populace led to consolidation of wealth among survivors and culling of the stupidest, most superstitious people. These two things combined led to the Renaissance and improved tech that allowed them to conquer more primitive native people.

But no one ever talks about the fact that near-extinction is what led to "white privilege" and imperialism.

in its most basic concept

What I find interesting is that Judaism isn't evangelical. Like, many of them are somewhat opposed to the idea of converts from outside of the tribe.

Meanwhile, evangelical Christians happily try to convert anyone and everything that will kneel. Yet they don't have as much influence and power as the jews.

but how jews trust each other i guess is a mystery

@Marushia Dark In what way did it lead to imperialism? Through new technology and the Renaissance? Or the new mindset?

one which will puzzle man to the end of time

@Retro Can't easily conquer people who are equally matched to you

This is true

Because you have assurity in your ranks as opposed to diluting who you know can and will ensure the continuation of the group

So like guns vs spears

Mhm, fair

@ubermensch deluding or diluting?

Both?

Diluting

Ah. that makes more sense. thanks.

they do certain things though that other groups do not do, they setup awards ceremonies, they create so many organisations.

The Chinese squandered gunpowder.

jews always giving other jews awards

I mean think about just cause you have more people doesn’t necessarily mean you have more control

Keep in mind, Jews have been around for 3500 years as well, whereas Christians only for 2000+ an Muslims roughly 1400.

they are certainly proud of their group and their religion

they take no shame in creating israel

Idk about Israel.

Well, in a military setting, more soldiers was historically the single biggest determiner of who won. More people could overwhelm superior tech, superior training, and superior determination.

The thing about jewish success is that nobody's stopping white people from doing that except white people. It would be perfectly fine if we took care of ourselves but I guess it's not meant to be

@SimonTV exactly strength comes from self pride of the group if you lack that the group will erode away

That doesn't exactly translate well to other settings though.

That pride will go elsewhere

Jewish in-group preference is both a blessing and a curse, since they have high social cohension, but outsiders trust them less for their enclaves and lack of integration into the wider society

Hence 'diversity is our strength'

@Cryosite sure doesn’t always apply but it defiantly has more or less assured some groups better then others

Look at the Swiss

They aren’t the Kings or empire

But they aren’t buckling either

But they waz

Sorry meant Swiss