@lungfish Well yeah

Who controls the overtone window of what is socially acceptable though

Is it the proud boys or the media?

Currently still the media

Buts it's allot closer than it used to ve

I haven't really seen proud boys do shit unprovoked

Ultimately the public does. The media has an influence but the public is skeptical of the media.

If social media wasn't censored I think we would have won already

Definitely

They would have been run out of the platform

I think respect for the media has gone down dramatically in the last decade

We were completely dominating YouTube until they start de ranking and shadow banning

Do you remember the golden age of YouTube when the feminists where basically pushed off the platform before they declared all criticism harassment?

And now we don't see response videos anymore and they're resurgent

Of course I remember I was there

As you said YT is doing much worse now

Well feminists need to have a voice too without being badgered off the platform

Shadow banning is beyond immoral

Not really

Feminists are supposed to give compelling argument

Pushing reach of our political opponents while secretly hindering ours

And if argument is shit

They are facing scrutiny

Our biggest problem current is the ongoing atomization of society, us included

Well the media class remains united

We are being scattered

If you don't want to be atomized then engage in more IRL socializing. It's the only solution to that problem which has ever existed

And the fact is, IRL socializing requires being somewhat normal. So become somewhat normal.

xd

I think everyone good has been pushed out of the media or fell into line with their social norms

I kinda feel

Like you're probably

There are victims to what they have done there we just don't know it

One of biggest loners here

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We need a common platform or political part, NGO, etc... Just something to rally behind

I'm hoping Jordan Peterson's thinkspot will be a good start

u remember that women that whinged she had the epstein story 3years ago

she was mad because she had the scoop

Maybe, I'm speaking from experience somewhat, and in many ways I do see myself as a loner, but the fact is I do socialize a reasonable amount and don't consider myself atomized in any serious way

not because he got away wit it for 3 yrs