Socialism is poorly defined by most

Le americano....... esclavo de israel

I'm of the mind to agree, that it appears that as you say any socialism fails. @Jack of Trades

A very simple way would be to imagine a straight line between ancapistan and soviet Russia

@Laucivol it cannot work, which is why I don't fear China

*mounts @Kealor*

China still feels kinda fascist to me tbh

More like corporate fascism though, it's what ancapistan turns into before the collapse i imagine

@Kealor that's where your fail to understand

Also get off of me furry before I get out Ze flammenwaffer

Socialist countries ARE fascist

They HAVE to be in order to maintain socialism

Ehhhhhhh

@Kealor nope, you're getting horse cock

I'm can agree with the horseshoe

Not the raindrop model

@Kealor of course you can, because im not an idiot like MA

There are marked similarities in mission statement that lead to different outcomes

Everyone always agrees with me when I'm not shit posting

Not radically different, but different

Fascism doesn't actually need to care a whole lot for your economic model. As long as it serves the state and ultimately bows to it

@Kealor everything for the purpose of the state

are any of you able to search for message history?

Fascism doesn't need to care, right, but socialist governments are fascist

Jack is misusing the word fascist with totalitarianism

@Samaritan™ nope

Im not remotely

Communism mandates management though, fascism just ensure that it *can* be managed at a whim

It's a distinct political theory

Communists aren't Nazis opposite side of the political spectrum

@Kealor what's the difference friend?

@Samaritan™ so?

Communists are fascists, nazis are also fascists

I refer to my first statement

@Samaritan™ I refer to you continuing to be wrong

Marking one a subcategory of the other does make things a bit murkier. But it's more about the cultural push and details of what's going on

@Kealor it's not a subcategory

I think it would be better to delineate between fascism and authoritarianism

Fascism is really a 4th way, ultimately

You could say the common factor is socialism

But it all eventually leads to fascism. It's the only way that works