@Louis They're not really interested in the enviroment though. It's all just a pretence to muscle in on energy markets with underhanded means. "Disqualify" their established competition so they can sell an inferior product.

@Seven Proxies 100% correct

Solar power has low efficiency costs far more electricity it to make than it creates

As well as is damaging ecologically to make

Solar panels are not enviromentaly friendly

At that point why not build towers which reach several miles upwards, and put the solar panels at the top, above the cloud line

@lancelout Right now it does. Because solar panels are expensive to make. They haven't made any serious efforts at cost cutting mass production yet.

And then there's the issue of making sure the bastards don't get dirtied with sandstorms and rains.

Like veganism is not enviromentaly friendly either

^

Meat eating is more enviromentaly friendly

Hit me with the arguments, Louis.

Because it uses less land

@Zephyr Blackfish Moving the goalposts a little there though. Any kind of power plant will require some form of maintenance. Nuclear powerplants don't work without maintenance either.

Nuclear is relatively clean, which is funny.

It's about time we start doing massive indoor farms, the more vertical the better

@Seven Proxies powerplants arent the size of a Mojave Desert-sized solar-farm.

The more vertical, the more farms can be had within city limits, and without damaging the city or creating farmland

@Seven Proxiesif only we could make Nuclear power plants human error free. I think this would be a good challenge for engineering and architecture.

That would cripple the farmland that exists@Reprehensibletrash

@Zephyr Blackfish No, but you're going to need a crapton of nuclear powerplants to get the same energy output. Besides, it's not like the mojave desert is some sort of "prime real estate". I mean, it's a fucking desert.

Skyscraper except there are farms on each level and 45 degree roof mirrors so the light actually gets in there

@Seven Proxies build the nuclear powerplants in the Mojave Desert for a fraction of the space and energy-cost, cuck. You'll need a "crap ton" more solar panels than you'd ever need nuclear powerplants.

@Zephyr Blackfish Sorry. The nuclear power plants required would cost more.

that is incorrect

"Muh cost for most efficient form of power generation"

Burn coal then, faggot.

Fuck solar panels.

Good. Horizontal farmlands are the most damaging thing to the environment. It's perfectly possible to take the funding from israel's yearly allowance, and repurpose it for making vertical farms for the south

Nuclear power plants are the least expensive in terms of watt per dollar

B- b- but what about muh panels?!

and they produce so much power that it offsets the time to build and cost to build

Nuclear is ebil

We can make the nuclear plants rather small, honestly

@Louis Now yes. With mass produced solar panels, no.

Nothing wrong with building more than one solution and producing more than you need.

you cant just wish mass production in place

The problem is that the more nuclear plants you have, the more likely we are to see dirty bombs used in terror attacks

@Reprehensibletrash False

@Louis No, but one can make a serious attempt at it. Which hasn't even happened yet.

But I suppose that's a demographic issue