Message from @Classy

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2019-07-02 04:54:59 UTC  

that is one hell of a question when you think about it seriously but it seems almost impossible to give a good answer to.

2019-07-02 07:31:51 UTC  

Impossible as Jews were not in East Asia in any significant numbers until the Tang Dynasty.

2019-07-02 12:03:21 UTC  

yeah but

2019-07-02 12:03:27 UTC  

thats not the question

2019-07-02 12:03:33 UTC  

what if God chose the Chinese?

2019-07-02 12:06:39 UTC  

That's such a silly question

2019-07-02 19:43:49 UTC  

Wiktor that is an interesting piece of information tbh

2019-07-02 19:51:20 UTC  

thats the qotd

2019-07-02 19:51:22 UTC  

or was

2019-07-03 01:05:40 UTC  

Okay, since the last question was a bit too brainy for you all:

2019-07-03 01:06:57 UTC  

<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question ✝
Is it possible to live a meaningful life without belief in a higher power? Or, is it even possible to not believe in some sort of higher power?

2019-07-03 01:07:24 UTC  

i doubt its possible to not believe in some higher power

2019-07-03 01:07:24 UTC  

no and yes

2019-07-03 01:07:40 UTC  

every single tribe has some deity

2019-07-03 01:07:58 UTC  

@Deleted User What about atheists? What is their higher power? Or perhaps an example of one?

2019-07-03 01:08:07 UTC  

evolution

2019-07-03 01:08:09 UTC  

chance

2019-07-03 01:08:22 UTC  

possibly nature

2019-07-03 01:08:37 UTC  

Nature might be a good option, actually.

2019-07-03 01:10:44 UTC  

What do you mean when you say a "meaningful life" a person can believe in a "higher power" or God and not live a meaningful life

2019-07-03 01:11:57 UTC  

I purposefully left it a bit vague to allow for discussion. I wasn't creating a dichotomy, however, whereas you are.

2019-07-03 01:12:11 UTC  

For me a "meaningful life" is living your life for the purpose that God made you for, his calling for me, and only then can i live a life using the skills and talents he gave me were it is best used

2019-07-03 01:12:37 UTC  

So meaning is not derived from the self but from external forces?

2019-07-03 01:13:40 UTC  

I would say its both, acknowledging your purpose and choosing to follow it

2019-07-03 01:14:16 UTC  

You are not compelled to do what "you are made for"

2019-07-03 01:14:42 UTC  

God doesn't force people to do stuff they don't want to but God made everyone with a purpose

2019-07-03 01:14:48 UTC  

Well you're saying things like "purpose" and "calling", which imply that God is a necessary component to the development of meaning in one's life. I'm asking if it is possible to have a meaningful life *without* God or religion in general.

2019-07-03 01:14:54 UTC  

And from that purpose you find meaning

2019-07-03 01:15:19 UTC  

To put it a different way, are atheists' lives meaningless?

2019-07-03 01:16:09 UTC  

Well from what i said i would say yes

2019-07-03 01:16:44 UTC  

Of course its dependent on themself and there feelings if they had found meaning

2019-07-03 01:17:17 UTC  

If it's not in God, its in there work, hobbies and dreams

2019-07-03 01:18:11 UTC  

Im not an atheist so it would be hard to infer there way of thinking

2019-07-03 01:18:53 UTC  

But a good guess is they use substitutes like there work or profession to get meaning from

2019-07-03 01:19:16 UTC  

I am one, and through conversations with my religious friends I've come to understand a bit better why Christians think that Atheism is inherently nihilistic

2019-07-03 01:19:33 UTC  

Without God there is nothing, no meaning, no purpose, no direction in life

2019-07-03 01:19:44 UTC  

If they know it or not, they substitutes things of the world where God should be

2019-07-03 01:19:55 UTC  

So they impose that meaning that they internalize upon atheists and think that atheists work within that framework

2019-07-03 01:20:03 UTC  

Therefore to them atheism is nihilistic

2019-07-03 01:20:16 UTC  

Yeah i can see that

2019-07-03 01:21:03 UTC  

I don't think all atheist are nihilistic tho, that hasn't really crossed my mind if they are