Message from @Shalopy
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I just meant lik you are only born once here and one chance, in CHristianity?
We were "born" millions of years ago when our father conceived us, but our bodies were born here on earth.
The afterlife as I see it is broken into two separate parts, which can be divided further.
The first part we experience is without our bodies, as spirits. This can be divided into paradise and prison.
is the pre-earthly existence the same as the afterlife? or a different plane?
Similar, but not the exact same
think of a child, innocent and pure. Can they appreciate the world for what it is or are they somewhat ignorant?
We are destined for this life much like school, so we are taught and matured through our experiences. When we die, it is like stepping out of college into the wide new world waiting for us.
@Solid Sar this is a better way of explaining it.
sorry i ws AFK, ima read it now
is this all christians belief or a particular sect?
What trash is that
I think heโs just saying a whole lot of gobbledygook @Solid Sar
are you christian too or something else?
@Deleted User ok can you prove it
@Crazed Shotgun no atheist ive ever met says that
Ive mostly seen theists play that card
@Solid Sar just my sect.
We just have more doctrine than most Christian sects, which is why my personal belief is that The New Law (New testament) overrides the Old Law (Old testament) unless otherwise specified or spoken about by Christ.
Lol
I'm not a Christian either
@Shalopy while some may find it mainstream, it was a belief I came to from my study of scripture and prayerful thought.
Good. Then you ended up on the same conclusion.
What decides which heaven kingdom you spend eternity in?
What do you mean by "which heaven kingdom"?
The chart says there are three
Oh ok
The level of adhearance to the plan of salvation, whether or not you were a member of the church, if you were immoral and caused suffering in this life. Stuff like that.
Notice that there is no hell however, no eternal suffering.
With the exception of outer darkness, that is reserved for those who knew Christ, saw him as the son of God, understood his role as a Messiah, yet still denied him. As of now, only two people (with the exception of Lucifer and his minions) will enter Outer darkness. One is Judas as he betrayed Christ despite knowing his purpose, and the other is King David for breaking his vow to follow God but chose to abuse his power and become an adulterer and kill the husband of the woman he layed with.
Are these permanent? Or is their ways to move from one to the other (up or down)?
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