oh you did earlier so like

nvm

I'm talking about the metaphysical

since you said the immaterial doesn't exist

I think there has been a miscommunication

when I said "spiritual" was specifically referring to religion

oh ok

so you believe the spiritual exists?

I think the abstract exists

Do you agree with me that atheism leaves us with nothing for the spiritual?

and hence why spiritual decay is the only progress that's been made in that regard ever since science has been used as an excuse to let go of religion

Atheism simply is the rejection of dieties. Honestly It depends on who you are talking to

science is a very good reason to let go of religion

because science has demonstrated the claims of various religions to be false

religion is inherently anti-science

well at least the Abrahamic religions. I don't know much about other religions

im willing to bet they are the same though

Religion is not anti science...

Religion and science are completely different

Wrong

Islamic and Christian scientists have had a lot of influence on science

Science is a religious study

Science is a tool for understanding the universe

LOL science is not a religious study at all

its completely unrelated to religion

to say that it refutes it is also wrong

Science does not give us fact

so thats another thing to consider

Science is a part of religion

It is a religious tool to further understand the universe

@Maksim religion is belief without evidence

that is the opposite of science

Wrong

Science is from religion

there is not a shred of evidence for God

and like I said, science disproves claims made by the bible

Like what

see the screenshot above

towards the end

religion is belief without evidence?