Message from @Riley

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2019-09-03 15:37:57 UTC  

THEY ARE LITERALLY TAKINGOVER THE WORLD

2019-09-03 15:37:59 UTC  

you know im right

2019-09-03 15:38:23 UTC  

secular society simply cannot compete with them

2019-09-03 15:38:30 UTC  

hence they get replaced

2019-09-03 15:38:44 UTC  

oh yea the western nations cannot compete with uhh

2019-09-03 15:38:45 UTC  

Syria

2019-09-03 15:38:48 UTC  

Saudi Arabia

2019-09-03 15:38:50 UTC  

Iran

2019-09-03 15:39:27 UTC  

societies that have not socially progressed past 500 AD

2019-09-03 15:39:56 UTC  

Meanwhile iran has been analyzed to be capable to defeat the USA in war

2019-09-03 15:40:00 UTC  

kek

2019-09-03 15:40:08 UTC  

their societies are better

2019-09-03 15:40:12 UTC  

they wont die out

2019-09-03 15:40:19 UTC  

literally we see replacement of secular peoples

2019-09-03 15:40:21 UTC  

and who analyzed this?

2019-09-03 15:40:23 UTC  

y religious ones

2019-09-03 15:40:41 UTC  

a top military general of the US, Iran isnt really technologically backwards their investemnet into science and development is huge

2019-09-03 15:40:56 UTC  

they are publishing research papers at a staggering rate its insane

2019-09-03 15:41:36 UTC  

Iran is a unique case however since its not arabic culture, they are persian after all and so have a veryd different development compared to the typical arab country

2019-09-03 15:41:36 UTC  

im looking these things up and im not finding a single article on this general

2019-09-03 15:41:48 UTC  

or what he said

2019-09-03 15:42:19 UTC  

idk where you are getting this from

2019-09-03 15:43:02 UTC  

look the point is religion is inherently unscientific

2019-09-03 15:44:12 UTC  

religion itself doesnt need to be scientific, im not arguing that it is scientific rather that it does not impede science. If it does then those are (im pretty sure by catholic teaching as well) (so were talking fundumentalist thinking) heretics

2019-09-03 15:44:19 UTC  

or non christian

2019-09-03 15:44:36 UTC  

Polish catholics for example hate fundumentalists.

2019-09-03 15:45:00 UTC  

your gripes seem to be with fundumentalism more than with religion itself

2019-09-03 15:48:41 UTC  

Religion makes claims about the universe (that it was created by God). When one makes claims about nature, they need to do so scientifically

2019-09-03 15:48:50 UTC  

religion doesnt do this scientifically

2019-09-03 15:49:36 UTC  

this alone is enough to impede science

2019-09-03 15:53:12 UTC  

one of the big questions in science right now is the origin of the universe

2019-09-03 15:53:22 UTC  

what caused the big bang, if such a cause even exists

2019-09-03 15:53:30 UTC  

and can we ever know what this cause is

2019-09-03 15:56:45 UTC  

so far there are a number of hypotheses such as M-theory and loop quantum gravity. These two ideas follow the scientific method
- They state the problem (what caused the big bang)
- gather prior knowledge about general relativity and quantum mechanics
- use this prior knowledge to construct a hypothesis.
- and they are currently being tested.
Theists however, have their own explanation: God. They claim that they already have the answer to this question, however they do not have any evidence to back it up

2019-09-03 15:57:18 UTC  

@Bogatyr Bogumir does this make any sense?

2019-09-03 15:58:36 UTC  

rather than using the scientific method to confirm that a God exists and created the universe, theists start with the conclusion, then make up flimsy philosophical arguments to back it

2019-09-03 16:03:02 UTC  

Thank you for laying out the scientific method lol

2019-09-03 16:04:25 UTC  

@Shalopy sometimes you gotta walk people through it step by step

2019-09-03 16:04:27 UTC  

lole

2019-09-03 16:05:23 UTC  

The basics of all science including social science