@Riley You realize fundumentalism is not the entirety of christianity? And never really was the mainstream of christianity?

Also the US is falling apart lol. Islam has survived with its societies some 800+ years, meanwhile the US and the west in large is literally falling apart.

Also you dont realize that religion was never anti science, this was not the case historically at all

do I really need to go over how religion is not scientific again?

I dont think you realize thats not what I am actually arguing

btw, most middle eastern countries were established in the 1900s

most modern ones that is

middle eastern and north african

Still that doesnt counter the fact that religous societies have existed for millenia in stability, as in social stability and the capacity to withstand pressures and not implode

meanwhile providing also meaningful scientific advancement (europe is a prime example of this)

I mean secular countries have done literally the same

even atheistic countries

There is nothing about religion or has been that has stifled, especially in europe, scientific advancement.

And secular countries are imploding

no secular nation is imploding

atheistic countries are imploding as well.

nor can you demonstrate how secularism alone is the cause of this "implosion"

-> looks at demographics and the entire west"

-> realizes islam is taking over

oof

OH MY GOD A FEW EUROPEAN NATIONS HAVE 1% MUSLIM POPULATION HOLY SHIT EUROPE ISMUSLIM NOW

(or other religiously focused groups)

OH MY GOD

lol

THEY ARE LITERALLY TAKINGOVER THE WORLD

you know im right

secular society simply cannot compete with them

hence they get replaced

oh yea the western nations cannot compete with uhh

Syria

Saudi Arabia

Iran

societies that have not socially progressed past 500 AD

Meanwhile iran has been analyzed to be capable to defeat the USA in war

kek

their societies are better

they wont die out

literally we see replacement of secular peoples

and who analyzed this?

y religious ones

a top military general of the US, Iran isnt really technologically backwards their investemnet into science and development is huge

they are publishing research papers at a staggering rate its insane

Iran is a unique case however since its not arabic culture, they are persian after all and so have a veryd different development compared to the typical arab country

im looking these things up and im not finding a single article on this general