Message from @Notso

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2019-09-06 15:35:38 UTC  

how much of it is allegorical?

2019-09-06 15:35:52 UTC  

Like even the more obscure details like king Uzziah have been uncovered

2019-09-06 15:36:00 UTC  

A good portion, but not most

2019-09-06 15:37:37 UTC  

idk

2019-09-06 15:37:42 UTC  

the flood, creation, exodus, ect

2019-09-06 15:37:51 UTC  

i had more written down somewhere

2019-09-06 15:38:02 UTC  

The flood and creation are allegorical

2019-09-06 15:38:16 UTC  

I don't think there is any evidence to suggest the exodus was

2019-09-06 15:40:17 UTC  

well they havent found any evidence that the Hebrews were enslaved in Israel

2019-09-06 15:40:23 UTC  

the Egyptians never mention any of the plagues

2019-09-06 15:40:31 UTC  

I guess the tower of Babylon was not real either

2019-09-06 15:40:37 UTC  

Yes they do mention the plagues actually

2019-09-06 15:40:39 UTC  

or sodom and Gomorrah

2019-09-06 15:40:41 UTC  

no they don't

2019-09-06 15:40:51 UTC  

Let me get the thing rq

2019-09-06 15:45:00 UTC  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipuwer_Papyrus the Ipuwer Papyrus is debated as evidence, but otherwise historians regard information about it as unrecoverable bc of the age and time period.

2019-09-06 15:46:22 UTC  

did you read the bottom part

2019-09-06 15:46:37 UTC  

Did you read my qualifier?

2019-09-06 15:48:02 UTC  

o

2019-09-06 15:48:06 UTC  

now i did

2019-09-07 04:22:28 UTC  

Exodus is exaggerated at the least

2019-09-07 04:23:06 UTC  

The numbers talked about would mean some are still in Egypt when the front of the pack reaches Israel

2019-09-07 04:23:33 UTC  

Also, notice how much more active god is in the OT

2019-09-07 04:23:41 UTC  

Why would he just... quit

2019-09-07 04:24:34 UTC  

It goes from Jesus did this and that to statements of faith alone

2019-09-07 04:25:01 UTC  

And there are dozens and dozens of contradiction and inaccuracies

2019-09-07 21:06:04 UTC  

remember pi = 3?

2019-09-07 21:06:04 UTC  

lol

2019-09-08 07:21:32 UTC  

@Notso can you back that up? That would only be a couple football stadiums worth of people.

2019-09-08 07:26:09 UTC  

And your statement on the activity of God, are you implying the New Testament isn't literally the narrative of a hypostatic God on Earth?

2019-09-08 07:26:59 UTC  

You are twisting Sola fide as well, you seem to have a sola scriptura view as well, all around bad theology

2019-09-08 07:33:56 UTC  

Yeah I just did the math, there would only need to be 5 people every km, that's just a lie from you

2019-09-08 14:13:48 UTC  

Sinai is at greatest dimension 210km wide
Let's look at numbers
46.500 59.300 45.650 74.600 54.400 57.400 40.500 32.200 35.400 62.700 41.500 53.400
If you just look at the thousands that's 46 59 45 74 54 57 40 32 35 62 41 53
That's 598000 let's say 600.000
600000/210 is 2857 people per kilometer

2019-09-08 14:14:48 UTC  

If you're taking area, assuming they're evenly dispersed, it's 10 per square kilometer

2019-09-08 14:15:08 UTC  

But they're not evenly dispersed

2019-09-08 14:15:52 UTC  

Read numbers 1

2019-09-08 14:21:55 UTC  

Numbers 2 gives another number that corroborates this

2019-09-08 14:22:01 UTC  

*all those that were numbered of the camps throughout their hosts were six hundred thousand and three thousand and five hundred and fifty.*

2019-09-08 16:37:13 UTC  

@Notso would you look at that, I used 200000km which is entirely wrong lol. Anyways, it isn't unprecedented for such large numbers to flee a nation. We can look to the 400,000 Tatars who fled Russia in one night, the real question is how wide the group of people was.

2019-09-08 16:37:57 UTC  

Some Christians and Atheists regard it as a translation error, but I'm not sure that holds to scrutiny granted the prevalence of the number 600000