Message from @Eoppa

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2019-09-18 01:12:42 UTC  

But at this point you cannot be an atheist

2019-09-18 01:13:49 UTC  

So far all you established is that there is a pure act

2019-09-18 01:14:07 UTC  

And it's necessary ramifications

2019-09-18 01:14:19 UTC  

Immutability, unity, etc

2019-09-18 01:14:34 UTC  

Perhaps im not understanding, I do science, not philosophy

2019-09-18 01:15:29 UTC  

Maybe you are not, it took me 4 books before I accepted the argument

2019-09-18 01:15:55 UTC  

I didn't have anyone to explain why "x criticism" isn't right

2019-09-18 01:16:27 UTC  

wat

2019-09-18 01:17:17 UTC  

I'm saying it's a much more philosophically heavy argument than Dawkins or Hitchens thought

2019-09-18 01:17:56 UTC  

So it's understandable you wouldn't get it

2019-09-18 01:18:40 UTC  

I barely understand what Matt Dillahunty is saying half the time lole

2019-09-18 01:19:37 UTC  

If you watch Ed Feser debate this, he sounds like he lives in a library

2019-09-18 01:20:10 UTC  

New atheists like even Matt typically are not acquainted with the scholastics or other academic theologians

2019-09-18 01:20:57 UTC  

They'll debate at max William Lane Craig, who has weak arguments often

2019-09-18 01:21:07 UTC  

his arguments are a joke

2019-09-18 01:21:09 UTC  

lol

2019-09-18 01:21:23 UTC  

You would think that a God would make evidence of his existance obvious

2019-09-18 01:21:56 UTC  

Christians would not have to resort to nonsense like presuppositionalism

2019-09-18 01:21:57 UTC  

Read a theologian or something, all of these points were debated centuries ago really

2019-09-18 01:22:21 UTC  

I can barely get through a fiction book

2019-09-18 01:22:29 UTC  

Lol

2019-09-18 01:22:31 UTC  

I read *SCINECE*

2019-09-18 01:23:59 UTC  

now the biggest problem I have with Christianity is its false claims

2019-09-18 01:24:04 UTC  

and trust me, there are a shitton of them

2019-09-18 01:24:06 UTC  

Allegorical?

2019-09-18 01:24:16 UTC  

are the 10 commandments allegorical?

2019-09-18 01:24:22 UTC  

No

2019-09-18 01:25:14 UTC  

ok then where did they come from?

2019-09-18 01:25:21 UTC  

God

2019-09-18 01:26:34 UTC  

yea but how did he tell us

2019-09-18 01:26:38 UTC  

thats what i mean

2019-09-18 01:27:01 UTC  

He told Moses on the mountain and engraved them on the tablets

2019-09-18 01:29:18 UTC  

hmm now what was he doing on the mountain?

2019-09-18 01:29:22 UTC  

oh yea, exodus

2019-09-18 01:29:27 UTC  

going from Egypt correct?

2019-09-18 01:29:49 UTC  

Yessir

2019-09-18 01:30:03 UTC  

strangely enough, the Egyptians never once mention a mass enslavement of the Hebrews

2019-09-18 01:30:05 UTC  

or the plagues

2019-09-18 01:30:12 UTC  

or moses

2019-09-18 01:30:24 UTC  

We have no way to know

2019-09-18 01:30:25 UTC  

nor is there any archeological evidence they were ever there!