Message from @Riley

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2019-11-18 18:21:58 UTC  

ok, well tell god that he forgot a few people

2019-11-18 18:22:25 UTC  

Ironic. They wouldn't believe in the big bang either

2019-11-18 18:22:31 UTC  

Cool people

2019-11-18 18:22:33 UTC  

perhaps not

2019-11-18 18:22:39 UTC  

though unlike god, the big bang has evidence

2019-11-18 18:22:50 UTC  

There's only like 800 of them

2019-11-18 18:22:55 UTC  

"I don't personally expirence it so it's false"

2019-11-18 18:22:58 UTC  

Big bang btfo

2019-11-18 18:23:08 UTC  

my point was that there are people with no concept of a god

2019-11-18 18:23:08 UTC  

thats it

2019-11-18 18:23:10 UTC  

lol

2019-11-18 18:23:14 UTC  

@Riley the Big bang is a retarded theory. It's an event with no named cause

2019-11-18 18:23:23 UTC  

the big bang theory doesnt describe a cause

2019-11-18 18:23:31 UTC  

It should

2019-11-18 18:23:31 UTC  

it simply describes the expansion of the unvierse

2019-11-18 18:23:43 UTC  

We see things in the world that vary in degrees of goodness, truth, nobility, etc. For example, well-drawn circles are better than poorly drawn ones, healthy animals are better than sick animals. Moreover, some substances are better than others, since living things are better than non-living things, and animals are better than plants, in testimony of which no one would choose to lose their senses for the sake of having the longevity of a tree. But judging something as being "more" or "less" implies some standard against which it is being judged. For example in a room full of people of varying heights, at least one must be tallest. Therefore, there is something which is best and most true, and most a being, etc. Aquinas then adds the premise: what is most in a genus is the cause of all else in that genus. From this he deduces that there exists some most-good being which causes goodness in all else, and this everyone understands to be God.

2019-11-18 18:23:46 UTC  

I find this to be

2019-11-18 18:23:48 UTC  

Very interesting

2019-11-18 18:23:51 UTC  

Personally

2019-11-18 18:23:51 UTC  

For something to happen you need means @Riley

2019-11-18 18:24:01 UTC  

we know it happened, but we dont know the means

2019-11-18 18:24:07 UTC  

I know lightning happens, but i don't know how

2019-11-18 18:24:12 UTC  

How do you know the big bang wasn't god? It seems like that makes more sense than it just happened

2019-11-18 18:24:18 UTC  

i don't know it wasnt god

2019-11-18 18:24:20 UTC  

i havent ruled that out

2019-11-18 18:24:22 UTC  

however

2019-11-18 18:24:22 UTC  

@Riley Charged particles in clouds

2019-11-18 18:24:24 UTC  

there isnt evidence for this

2019-11-18 18:24:32 UTC  

Build up of charged particles

2019-11-18 18:24:54 UTC  

@Riley light is observable the big bang is a claim made. I won't believe it just happened by itself

2019-11-18 18:25:12 UTC  

we don't know anything before the planck era

2019-11-18 18:25:12 UTC  

inb4 red shift

2019-11-18 18:25:23 UTC  

redshift does demonstrate an expansion of space, yes

2019-11-18 18:25:32 UTC  

and get this

2019-11-18 18:25:41 UTC  

the CMB proves that the universe was once very dense, hot, and uniform

2019-11-18 18:25:44 UTC  

hmmm

2019-11-18 18:25:51 UTC  

so the universe use to be very dense and hot

2019-11-18 18:25:54 UTC  

and uniform

2019-11-18 18:25:57 UTC  

and its currently expanding

2019-11-18 18:25:59 UTC  

...what if

2019-11-18 18:26:01 UTC  

Expansion implies an origin point, which is roughly the big bang theory