Message from @The Desert Fox V

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2019-11-18 18:21:53 UTC  

*"According to Everett, the Pirahã have no concept of a supreme spirit or god,[9] and they lost interest in Jesus when they discovered that Everett had never seen him. They require evidence based on personal experience for every claim made.[6] However, they do believe in spirits that can sometimes take on the shape of things in the environment. These spirits can be jaguars, trees, or other visible, tangible things including people.[5](pp112,134–142) Everett reported one incident where the Pirahã said that “Xigagaí, one of the beings that lives above the clouds, was standing on a beach yelling at us, telling us that he would kill us if we go into the jungle.” Everett and his daughter could see nothing and yet the Pirahã insisted that Xigagaí was still on the beach.[5](ppxvi-xvii)"*

2019-11-18 18:21:58 UTC  

ok, well tell god that he forgot a few people

2019-11-18 18:22:25 UTC  

Ironic. They wouldn't believe in the big bang either

2019-11-18 18:22:31 UTC  

Cool people

2019-11-18 18:22:33 UTC  

perhaps not

2019-11-18 18:22:39 UTC  

though unlike god, the big bang has evidence

2019-11-18 18:22:50 UTC  

There's only like 800 of them

2019-11-18 18:22:55 UTC  

"I don't personally expirence it so it's false"

2019-11-18 18:22:58 UTC  

Big bang btfo

2019-11-18 18:23:08 UTC  

my point was that there are people with no concept of a god

2019-11-18 18:23:08 UTC  

thats it

2019-11-18 18:23:10 UTC  

lol

2019-11-18 18:23:14 UTC  

@Riley the Big bang is a retarded theory. It's an event with no named cause

2019-11-18 18:23:23 UTC  

the big bang theory doesnt describe a cause

2019-11-18 18:23:31 UTC  

It should

2019-11-18 18:23:31 UTC  

it simply describes the expansion of the unvierse

2019-11-18 18:23:43 UTC  

We see things in the world that vary in degrees of goodness, truth, nobility, etc. For example, well-drawn circles are better than poorly drawn ones, healthy animals are better than sick animals. Moreover, some substances are better than others, since living things are better than non-living things, and animals are better than plants, in testimony of which no one would choose to lose their senses for the sake of having the longevity of a tree. But judging something as being "more" or "less" implies some standard against which it is being judged. For example in a room full of people of varying heights, at least one must be tallest. Therefore, there is something which is best and most true, and most a being, etc. Aquinas then adds the premise: what is most in a genus is the cause of all else in that genus. From this he deduces that there exists some most-good being which causes goodness in all else, and this everyone understands to be God.

2019-11-18 18:23:46 UTC  

I find this to be

2019-11-18 18:23:48 UTC  

Very interesting

2019-11-18 18:23:51 UTC  

Personally

2019-11-18 18:23:51 UTC  

For something to happen you need means @Riley

2019-11-18 18:24:01 UTC  

we know it happened, but we dont know the means

2019-11-18 18:24:07 UTC  

I know lightning happens, but i don't know how

2019-11-18 18:24:12 UTC  

How do you know the big bang wasn't god? It seems like that makes more sense than it just happened

2019-11-18 18:24:18 UTC  

i don't know it wasnt god

2019-11-18 18:24:20 UTC  

i havent ruled that out

2019-11-18 18:24:22 UTC  

however

2019-11-18 18:24:22 UTC  

@Riley Charged particles in clouds

2019-11-18 18:24:24 UTC  

there isnt evidence for this

2019-11-18 18:24:32 UTC  

Build up of charged particles

2019-11-18 18:24:54 UTC  

@Riley light is observable the big bang is a claim made. I won't believe it just happened by itself

2019-11-18 18:25:12 UTC  

we don't know anything before the planck era

2019-11-18 18:25:12 UTC  

inb4 red shift

2019-11-18 18:25:23 UTC  

redshift does demonstrate an expansion of space, yes

2019-11-18 18:25:32 UTC  

and get this

2019-11-18 18:25:41 UTC  

the CMB proves that the universe was once very dense, hot, and uniform

2019-11-18 18:25:44 UTC  

hmmm

2019-11-18 18:25:51 UTC  

so the universe use to be very dense and hot

2019-11-18 18:25:54 UTC  

and uniform

2019-11-18 18:25:57 UTC  

and its currently expanding

2019-11-18 18:25:59 UTC  

...what if