Message from @Joywolf

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2019-12-09 17:45:20 UTC  

@Joywolf I'm in class.

2019-12-09 17:52:56 UTC  

@Gromp I'm talking about your prohibition on mixing religious beliefs and the state

2019-12-09 18:52:17 UTC  

<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question ✝️

- What is your view on predestination? Do we have free will to choose our path or our decisions predetermined since God knows everything?

2019-12-09 20:01:09 UTC  

Foreknowledge doesn't contradict free will is my interpretation

2019-12-09 20:01:26 UTC  

I believe Molinism is the name of that doctrine

The Norns spin the threads of fate at the foot of Yggdrasill, the tree of the world. Beneath them is the well Urðarbrunnr with the two swans that have engendered all the swans in the world.

2019-12-09 20:29:27 UTC  

not sure

2019-12-09 20:29:57 UTC  

we have free will id say but in a sense were all sorta destined

2019-12-09 20:30:10 UTC  

because theres really two things that make our personality

2019-12-09 20:30:13 UTC  

our genes

2019-12-09 20:30:25 UTC  

and all the outside impacts we had in our lifes right

2019-12-09 20:32:10 UTC  

Well I believe our conciousness is heavily dependent on the material, but there is an "uncaused" factor that is free will.

2019-12-10 14:44:57 UTC  

@Eoppa so why wouldn't he make us all with the knowledge of his existance?

2019-12-10 14:47:54 UTC  

i mean that yea thats possible i guess

2019-12-10 15:20:20 UTC  

We have free will in terms of our everyday life, but not in terms of coming to Christ.

2019-12-10 20:17:37 UTC  

@Maksim do u have a response to my question

2019-12-10 20:23:55 UTC  

@Joywolf You aren't not required to. It is completely voluntarily. But as you said you assumed he exists, therefore logically there is no reason *not* to because not worshipping means eternal loss and pain, worshipping means infinite gain and happiness.

2019-12-10 20:26:08 UTC  

@Joywolf I don't see how it follows that believing in his existence entails that following him will be necessarily pleasurable for you, gaining happiness or lacking pain. If anything you could argue it just makes you a bitch who can only follow and not lead.

2019-12-10 20:41:49 UTC  

pascals wager @Joywolf

2019-12-10 20:43:09 UTC  

lmao
this bitch is like
''um what if god wont let me cum?''

2019-12-10 20:43:20 UTC  

@Otto pascals wager is actually retarded

2019-12-10 21:13:43 UTC  

@Joywolf okay bitch

2019-12-10 21:13:52 UTC  

have fun in hell

2019-12-10 21:15:46 UTC  

@Otto good argument

2019-12-10 21:19:39 UTC  

Basically he's right @Joywolf

2019-12-10 21:20:13 UTC  

Who

2019-12-10 21:20:14 UTC  

Low iq Reddit chat ngl

2019-12-10 21:20:22 UTC  

Everyone besides you

2019-12-10 21:20:39 UTC  

Lol they made no argument

2019-12-10 21:20:47 UTC  

Ok but they're still right

2019-12-10 21:20:54 UTC  

Because you use Reddit

2019-12-10 21:21:05 UTC  

I don’t actually

2019-12-10 21:21:10 UTC  

You do actually

2019-12-10 21:21:13 UTC  

No need to lie

2019-12-10 21:21:14 UTC  

Nor do I care

2019-12-10 21:21:16 UTC  

It's visible

2019-12-10 21:21:21 UTC  

It's tangible

2019-12-10 21:21:35 UTC  

Because I’m looking bc for arguments not idiot retardant like u @OrthoGoat

2019-12-10 21:21:47 UTC  

Retardant

2019-12-10 21:21:51 UTC  

Reddit take

2019-12-10 21:21:56 UTC  

Anyways you want an argument