Look at colorado

look how much of a win that was

Even when you stop smoking the IQ loss is irreversible

And black someone without criminal record would still be more likely to get arrested with it than white someone without criminal record

its failing due to weed

@President Sanders📍🇺🇸 Sure, I'm not defending that

Why are alcohol and tobacco legal?

they should not be in my opinion

but its simple

money

Along side labor camps, the justice system should give punishment not on minimum sentences but on a case by case basis

They shouldn't be legal

Weed lowers IQ by an avg. of like 4-7 points.
And only morons put too much stock into IQ tests.

@President Sanders📍🇺🇸 IQ is a verified way of determining someone's income

only reason we didnt ban alcohol and cigs is cuz its a big money maker. simple as that

Average income for 100 IQ is 36K, 150 is 101k

IQ results will vary if someone takes the test under different cirucmstances

Sure, but the base level is the same across the board

It doesn't vary by more than 5 points

Weed is one drug that literally has little to no harm. More studies should be done, sure. But there are plenty of examples of intelligent stoners. Carl Sagan is a good example

@President Sanders📍🇺🇸 Fringe cases aren't a good way of setting policy

For the vast majority of people, weed causes permeant IQ lowerage

It's also been proven to be addictive

Anything can be addictive. Psychological addiction isn't physical addiction though

Also, just want to thank you for keeping it civil so many people just rant "REEE FUCK YOY BIGOT SUSUAMAH UR WRONG"

Cheese and caffeine are more addictive than weed lol

Bottom line is with weed people will push for stronger substances that are without a doubt dangerous to be legalized, alongside the fact it causes lower IQ which will see them wanting more legalization as they aren't thinking intelligently

well

yes

Which study exactly?

cigs can lead to weed and shit for example

No, marijuana use doesn’t lower your IQ
https://wapo.st/1sPawZ5

@President Sanders📍🇺🇸https://www.pnas.org/content/109/40/E2657

@President Sanders📍🇺🇸 There is no exact consensus among scientists on if it does, this doesn't rule out that it does tho and when setting policy it is always best to opt for worst case scenario, and until a absolute concrete consensus is reached we could be harming millions with irreversible lower intelligence - there just isn't enough research yet to say it's safe to legalize it

We have to wait

And in the case it is legalized, for some reason, it should be regulated as alcohol and tabbaco are, no public usage, can't make your own without a proper permit, regulations to ensure no street chemicals are introduced to make it more addictive or harmful, etc

The reason research isn't done enough is because it's illegal at the federal lebel, making it difficult. It was fine for everyone to use it throughout human history until just recently.

If it was legalized, it could be regulated and make profit. It would also allow more rigorous studies to be done.
But most studies either say there's little change in IQ or just a minimal change, which likely wouldn't drastically affect anything important.

The IQ change is usually associated in *heavy users*.
That isn't even the majority of marijuana users.

And the medical benefits outweigh any negative I've seen thus far. If a future study were to reveal something jawdropping, then maybe I'd reconsider.

If I were you, I'd be more concerned with the kids and people being prescribed things like SSRIs, which we *really* don't understand the effects of

Most studies do not say there is no or minimal IQ loss, it is a heated debate back and forth as there literally isn't enough research to say either or. Furthermore, medical benefits are only to people with specific conditions, *not* your average Joe.

What are SSRI's? I'd like to know more

True true. More studies needed. Medical benefits could include for stress and pain relief, in my opinion. Instead of taking morphine or Tylenol, just light a joint.

And SSRIs are ntidepressants. Serotonin.

They prescribe it for depression and hope it works, even though the side effects can be scary and can make mental health worse. I was put on Celexa for a month when I was a teenager, which is crazy to me now thinking back.
Serotonin (supposedly) helps by balancing out the chemical imbalance in brain. We can't even measure serotonin in the brain though.
It's a lot of guess and checking, trying different meds/different doses till you feel "normal".
Millions are prescribed them.

I do agree there, antidepressants are horrid imo. Completely volatile and unreliable and best, dangerous and permanent at worst

I flushed mine down the toilet tbh.
They made my stomach feel like it was melting one night. (Idk what was going on)