Message from @kwit_dat_Stalin

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2019-07-22 02:22:21 UTC  

@President Sanders📍🇺🇸 If a country has enough resources to give everyone a home for cheap prices, it should not - this discourages work and creates a sense of "im entitled to a cheap house". You are not, you work for it. He does not work shall not eat. Instead just make sure wages match inflation and purchasing power so a single person working, say, a factory job, could afford a comfortable suburban house. Halting technological progress is absolutely doable, for the public anyways. I believe technological progress should be limited in terms of the *public eye*, while the sciences can keep advancing tech in their respective fields. For example it is widely known the DoD (Department of Defense) and the CIA have technology decades ahead of anything publicly out now, most advanced militaries have the same story however these are kept top secret for obvious reasons. The tech the average person see's and ineracts with should slow down, not necessarily military or scientific tech

2019-07-22 02:31:54 UTC  

@President Sanders📍🇺🇸 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JIWwDW_OzA

I **heavily** suggest you watch this video in it's entirety first, it's sort of long (24 minutes) but it is 100% worth it. It is talking about the points we are tlaking about here, capitalism, tech, family, purpose, community

2019-07-22 02:32:00 UTC  

I disagree. I wholeheartedly think technology should be done at the fastest speed possible (I'd really like to cut some of the defense budget for NASA especially).

But regardless of how doable it is to slow technological process (it is technically, since the U.S. is a few decades behind a few Asian and European countries technology-wise), things like self-driving cars and restaurants run by AI/machines will be a reality in ten years. Even if all jobs paid well and adjusted their wages for inflation (like what should've been done for decades), there simply won't be as many. Truck drivers won't be needed, retail workers won't be either, nor many others that are rigid and/or require lots of physical labour.

2019-07-22 02:32:35 UTC  

And that's a problem

2019-07-22 02:32:40 UTC  

Watch video above, please.

2019-07-22 02:33:33 UTC  

The video is about the divide in conservatism over free markets and tech innovation, but it covers all the topics we are currently on about

2019-07-22 02:34:18 UTC  

Alright, sure. Well actually, I'll add it to watch later. I'm in the middle of cooking right now, but send a friend request or I'll just tag you sometime later once I watch it.

2019-07-22 02:34:27 UTC  

Alright, cheers.

2019-07-22 02:36:21 UTC  

However, firstly, it is important to understand the way civilization has changed in the past 100 years. It’s shifted to favor the cognitively intelligent who develop complicated systems that make basic needs cheap. Following the past few decades of rapid advancement, a large segment of the populus are rendered intellectually incapacitated in terms of meeting the demand of these new industries. Throughout history, being very intelligent did not grant you special privileges. Mostly everybody had the ability to support families working in a factory line, farming, or performing manual labor. Today, the rapidly expanding tech sectors of the economy necessitate people to wrestle with complex systems whether it be cognitively demanding ones like programming and mathematically intensive ones like accounting. A primary threat to workers is the debate surrounding wide-scale automation of the automobile industry, which threatens to displace the 4.4 million mostly men whose income depend upon that or who would support families thru these jobs. It is the biggest source of employment for men with a high-school education in the country, I do worry about what this would mean for their families if it were to be suddenly phased out in the coming years. A respone of the neckbreak speed of free-market innovationists to these concerns has been to remind us that whenever there’s a massive technological innovation on the horizon, the instinct of people si to find a reason to halt it in order to safeguard their jobs and work. Which is fair in the context of horses, buggies, and cars, but the challenge of as of yet unseen opportunity doesn't exist in the same landscape. One can imagine more jobs would be created and then add onto the system of automated cars, but the bottomline of skill to be able to do sucht actions is beyond what truck drivers could be retrained to do. @President Sanders📍🇺🇸

2019-07-22 02:36:29 UTC  

Excerpt from the video

2019-07-23 00:59:46 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

- How do we solve homelessness and joblessness? How would you go about implementing change?

2019-07-23 01:00:17 UTC  

first

2019-07-23 01:00:29 UTC  

also sup

2019-07-23 01:00:31 UTC  

im cool

2019-07-23 01:00:35 UTC  

(proven)

2019-07-23 01:01:03 UTC  

FJG

2019-07-23 01:01:07 UTC  

I would encourage the abolition of all welfare except for people who genuinely can not work, replace it with a massive jobs program. We have more empty jobs than we do homeless people, we can put every single able bodied person to work if we wanted to. Wages should also be raised to match with inflation, and should always match inflation.

2019-07-23 01:01:49 UTC  

Purchasing power should also increase massively in order to match with inflation and wages

2019-07-23 01:02:06 UTC  

Purchasing power has remained stagnant even though wages and inflation dictate it should rise

2019-07-23 01:02:18 UTC  

Execution is the answer

2019-07-23 01:03:17 UTC  

I agree with @Deleted User on the abolition of welfare

2019-07-23 01:03:38 UTC  

Plus maybe getting rid of the minimum wage

2019-07-23 01:03:58 UTC  

@kwit_dat_Stalin Problem is we have to force corporations to pay people more

2019-07-23 01:04:06 UTC  

They have to match wages with inflation

2019-07-23 01:04:10 UTC  

You guys are no fun

2019-07-23 01:04:17 UTC  

Or match the wages with the markets

2019-07-23 01:04:28 UTC  

@kwit_dat_Stalin No, it has to match with inflation

2019-07-23 01:05:03 UTC  

Productive output has increased and corporations always matched wages with it, but for several years now they refuse to match wages with productive output

2019-07-23 01:05:08 UTC  

This is greed and corruption

2019-07-23 01:05:26 UTC  

They deserve to be put to death for treason against the people of they refuse

2019-07-23 01:05:36 UTC  

😳

2019-07-23 01:06:08 UTC  

Next, the housing market is corrupt and greedy as well

2019-07-23 01:06:13 UTC  

Yea

2019-07-23 01:06:28 UTC  

Housing markets have not matched house prices and rent with wages

2019-07-23 01:06:35 UTC  

Yea

2019-07-23 01:06:44 UTC  

What about interest rates tho

2019-07-23 01:06:50 UTC  

🤔

2019-07-23 01:07:06 UTC  

What about them

2019-07-23 01:07:59 UTC  
2019-07-23 01:08:17 UTC  

Sorry I was on another server for a second

2019-07-23 01:08:21 UTC  

What about what?