Oh look those charts prove my point

Prison is a complex issue since you cant not punish people, but you cant not put some effort into resocializing

its like putting a time bomb into a box, without solving the problem that its a time bomb

Some people are simply bombs that will go off and need to remain seperated from society (or optimally executed)

@Bogatyr Bogumir How do they prove your point

ikr lol

Literally about mental health @Bogatyr Bogumir

@Shiba Inu We know that people much like all animals respond to stimulus and this is psycholgically wired. You cant not punish someone for doing wrong, whatever that is. This would be akin to catching someone who stole bread, and letting him go or not caching him at all. Just maybe yelling at him or not even that.

Meanwhile we look at said charts, the older generations show less mentall health issues. look at the 65 year old group also look at the literal mountian of physical disabilities they have.

i can also simply throw these out as these dont measure why these mental issues exist, rather that they simply do exist.

Also read the first chart, then read the later charts. Literally sub 18 year olds are worse off than over 45 year olds.

This is what happens when you pull charts, without actually identyfying "was punished was not punished"

either way you spin it they prove the point that albeit physical punishment being a thing, it didnt ruin, or had such a null effect on society. Also we see that either sub 18 is worse off than the older gens. We also see that over 65, is better off. This is the generations we are looking at mostly.

@Bogatyr Bogumir Older generations generally know not much about mental health abs have deep rooted psycological issues as a result of childhood abuse.

It has negative affects on individuals, and is known and factual that this leads to further mental illnesses such as depreasive disorders.

The fact that you will even sit and argue for abuse of children really shows the true colors of your support of the matter in general.

G-d's purest Torah forbids the abuse of children, so does Noachide law. End of story.

I don't support it and my word is final

No one should

@G a b e גבריאל I dont argue for abuse of children, but completely removing physical punishment is just a retarded way to go.

If I have a child that is acting out no matter what, I am forced to get the belt out.

If they actually behave and listen then there is no need for escalation. There are literally personality types, psychologically this is grounded, that will only respond to force. This doesnt have to be beatings or psychological abuse, but measured.

"they didnt know about mental health" People, children, have gone through far worse than spanking and come out completely fine on the other side. The psyche isnt as fragile as you make it out to be.

Again I am not arguing for abuse, but for the capacty to spank your child. Not punishing them this way, or simply taking things away, produces brats like SJW's we see today. its the philosophy of a no stress upbringing, had all SJW's taken a spanking or two in childhood and had some of that rigor and stress, society would be a better place.

Also the data says otherwise, hell reality says otherwise.

@Bogatyr Bogumir A vary vague statement of "reality" is not usable in an argument. Can you provide contradictory sources?

@everyone Question Of The Day:

What will happen to the Conservative MPs who have lost their Whips?
Will they create their own party, become an independent, join the opposition, etc

Who cares about Tories?

honestly

Their party is a joke for almost a decade now

It ain't funny from where I'm sitting

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Nor for me

all of parlament will die opening the way for war between millenials and zoomers

Should I join the US Marine Corps as a woman? I want to be a Marine Scout Sniper

Age is the next great social divide

@---- Despite that probably needing to go in general, I say go for it

You should murder government. I has no problems with killing you.

Bruh we aren't France

We are civilised

Not trigger happy Americans, or whining Frogs

why

Yeah the gay frogs made the French loopy just like Alex Jones predicted

Bloody yanks

government is just a Monopoly on murder and theft

👀

@---- Because this is QOTD not general

Oh also no calls to violence please

Did I say to kill anyone? no. i said to kill a government. government is an ideology. killing ideas is still legal.