@Attika A republic is a democracy imo

direct democracy not indirect democracy and again I would say old fashioned classical democracy functions best due to a lack of greater beaurocracy that is upheld today

Any form where a general populus votes in any manner

No

A republic and democracy are different

@Attika I would prefer an Autocratic Theocracy

I just looked it up

So a God-King?

🤔

@Attika When i say democracy, i specifically refer to anytime a general population votes on any matter

@Attika no

Very different

Greek city states devolved from democracy into mob rule in only 50 years time. Those guys fucked boys in the ass because majority said it was ok.

An Autocratic Theocracy is a group (not one) of clergy

Literally.

@You Can't Afford Me then would a feudal society in that sense count as the general populace is voting through an indirect form of leadership through feifdoms through representatives?

I can get behind a theocracy depending on the religion.

a direct democracy would be differnent

Theocracies are a breeding ground of tyranny

@Attika The unfortunate truth is, the human brain is not designed for self-rule

very true

The problem with democracy is that its not difficult to convince an immoral majority to abuse the minority.

rwanda would be a good example

yes

Democracy in action.

@Niggler that’s retarded. There’s a reason Greek city states were the intellectual powerhouses that are still talked about today.

@Attika And at what cost?

Democracy is the best government. Capitalism is the best economy. Religion defines our morals. This is perfect Government.

even though persia had a greater technological progression than that of the greek city states due to arger trade routes? @Attika

@Attika I respectfully disagree, do you wish to move to <#587028275918929925> ?

Democracy is tyranny of the masses

They failed in morality. Yes. That’s not democracy.

External government is only necessary for those who will not take on the mantle of self discipline.

Like the average person can self discipline lol

Smoking, alcoholism, etc. wouldn't be a problem

Social expectation creates social results.

If you expect every middle aged man in a white van is a pedo, society will make every van owner into one.

At the birth of the so called demoskratia in athens socrates stated that democracy was doomed to fail due to the ignorance of the masses and their overcapability to be brainwashed leading to greater tyranny than that of a time before the kingships of the 5th century. Philosopher kings may arguably be an interesting adaptive concept in that sense as he believed they may be the solution yet also the potentual end of demoskratia.

a system of representative voting is needed

yet also that of strong capable leadership#

yet ambition will always disease the progression of man, alonside greed