Message from @Fuckers

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2019-09-09 21:55:49 UTC  

@Attika And at what cost?

2019-09-09 21:55:53 UTC  

Democracy is the best government. Capitalism is the best economy. Religion defines our morals. This is perfect Government.

2019-09-09 21:56:14 UTC  

even though persia had a greater technological progression than that of the greek city states due to arger trade routes? @Attika

2019-09-09 21:56:14 UTC  

@Attika I respectfully disagree, do you wish to move to <#587028275918929925> ?

2019-09-09 21:56:14 UTC  

Democracy is tyranny of the masses

2019-09-09 21:56:21 UTC  

They failed in morality. Yes. That’s not democracy.

2019-09-09 21:57:20 UTC  

External government is only necessary for those who will not take on the mantle of self discipline.

2019-09-09 21:57:38 UTC  

Like the average person can self discipline lol

2019-09-09 21:57:59 UTC  

Smoking, alcoholism, etc. wouldn't be a problem

2019-09-09 21:58:09 UTC  

Social expectation creates social results.

2019-09-09 21:59:08 UTC  

If you expect every middle aged man in a white van is a pedo, society will make every van owner into one.

2019-09-09 22:01:24 UTC  

At the birth of the so called demoskratia in athens socrates stated that democracy was doomed to fail due to the ignorance of the masses and their overcapability to be brainwashed leading to greater tyranny than that of a time before the kingships of the 5th century. Philosopher kings may arguably be an interesting adaptive concept in that sense as he believed they may be the solution yet also the potentual end of demoskratia.

2019-09-09 22:01:53 UTC  

a system of representative voting is needed

2019-09-09 22:02:03 UTC  

yet also that of strong capable leadership#

2019-09-09 22:02:37 UTC  

yet ambition will always disease the progression of man, alonside greed

2019-09-09 22:02:48 UTC  

which is hardwired into our social behaviour

2019-09-09 22:03:00 UTC  

These behaviours would just become taboo amd not in the spotlight, secret instead. In which case they could potentially do even more damage

2019-09-09 22:03:22 UTC  

dawkinain theory teaches us a fundementally equal society would be impossible to that degree due to biology

2019-09-09 22:03:31 UTC  

true

2019-09-09 22:09:27 UTC  

I see

2019-09-09 22:10:16 UTC  

There's only one country with a democracy on earth

2019-09-09 22:10:26 UTC  

I don't support republics

2019-09-09 22:10:42 UTC  

Democracies though <:ayy:591181633105952788>

2019-09-09 22:14:02 UTC  

What is the alternative to republics

2019-09-09 22:14:27 UTC  

Anarchy? Dictators?

2019-09-09 22:15:15 UTC  

Democracy

2019-09-09 22:15:19 UTC  

Autocratic Theocracy

2019-09-09 22:15:22 UTC  

Syndicalism

2019-09-09 22:15:24 UTC  

Called direct democracy these days

2019-09-09 22:15:42 UTC  

As "representative democracy" sounded nicer than republic

2019-09-09 22:16:51 UTC  

who the fuck pinged me

2019-09-09 22:16:58 UTC  

Not me

2019-09-09 22:17:05 UTC  

death to all who ping addie

2019-09-09 22:17:27 UTC  

<:gun:605969568971620352><:sad:591188782330413088><:HellYeah:591182597514723345>

2019-09-09 22:17:33 UTC  

Democracy is not independant of republics.

2019-09-09 22:18:02 UTC  

Democracy is majority rule and republic is rule by law. they can easily overlap.

2019-09-09 22:18:15 UTC  

If the majority creates law.

2019-09-09 22:18:51 UTC  

The meaning of the word is "the people rule"

2019-09-09 22:19:04 UTC  

I don't see how that matches with a select few people ruling

2019-09-09 22:19:14 UTC  

Both are trash, democracy is the sole reason why europe is doomed

2019-09-09 22:19:27 UTC  

No country in Europe is a democracy