Message from @Gromp

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2019-11-12 15:43:31 UTC  

And we've had it for a while now

2019-11-12 15:43:58 UTC  

If your wireless wifi has a speed greater than 300mbps you have speeds within 5G range

2019-11-12 15:44:16 UTC  

And that hasn't caused cancer or small animals to die

2019-11-12 16:01:06 UTC  

iirc data centers are also a major source of electrical energy consumption. The change from 3g to 4g increased tens of times the energy needed to run 4g compared to running 3g. I imagine 5g will also create a huge increase in energy consumption.

2019-11-12 17:14:03 UTC  

@Riley shut the fuck up

2019-11-12 17:37:05 UTC  

@Fringes III lmao @ no proof of god

2019-11-12 17:37:07 UTC  

he is fake news

2019-11-12 18:10:46 UTC  

@Maksim commie

2019-11-12 18:14:07 UTC  

@PVN Nazbol is the only correct ideology gtfo fag

2019-11-12 18:14:16 UTC  

Fascists tend to struggle with homosexuality

2019-11-12 18:26:46 UTC  

How does Nazbol even work? Like you recognize class struggle and all but also blame it on ze jews or sth

2019-11-12 18:26:48 UTC  

?

2019-11-12 18:37:11 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588205956039442452/643882000834494464/1561805614878.jpg

2019-11-12 18:40:29 UTC  

Class Struggle has been the underpinning reason civilization cannot break from its cycle of growth, golden age, and downfall. Only when class struggle is fully realized within the national consciousness can the people free themselves and unite under the banner of their nation. Other nations must achieve this consciousness themselves, but gentle intellectual aid is acceptable. But installing puppet Governments and other such actions do not solve class struggle but simply just change *who* is the rich and powerful. @Gromp

2019-11-12 18:40:59 UTC  

So umm how do you do that?

2019-11-12 18:43:49 UTC  

There are a plethora of ways national consciousness of class struggle can be achieved, not all are good. Looking at the current state of the US, national consciousness among the middle and lower classes is slowly waking up towards this realisation. Partly manifested in the "Ok Boomer" trend young radicals see that the rich and often old abuse their nation for their own means.

2019-11-12 18:45:23 UTC  

So you want to use nationalism as a tool to achieve class consciousness?

2019-11-12 18:45:29 UTC  

Yes

2019-11-12 18:45:39 UTC  

The rich don't care about their nation

2019-11-12 18:45:42 UTC  

Only of profit

2019-11-12 18:46:18 UTC  

Fair nuff, why does it have to be nationalism in particular?

2019-11-12 18:47:21 UTC  

Nationalism is perhaps the most effective binding tool

2019-11-12 18:47:42 UTC  

The best for creating a unified identity

2019-11-12 18:48:36 UTC  

Socialism can only truely exist when capitalists everywhere are deposed

2019-11-12 18:48:51 UTC  

I don't oppose that

2019-11-12 18:48:58 UTC  

why would you be nationalist

2019-11-12 18:49:16 UTC  

Nationalism and Capitalism aren't compatible

2019-11-12 18:49:28 UTC  

Capitalism is inheritly globalist

2019-11-12 18:49:41 UTC  

Globalism is better for business

2019-11-12 18:50:03 UTC  

yes

2019-11-12 18:50:04 UTC  

So whats so appealing about nationalism that you make it that much of a core tenet?

2019-11-12 18:50:22 UTC  

I care about my culture

2019-11-12 18:50:26 UTC  

Above other cultures

2019-11-12 18:50:28 UTC  

but socialism is inherently internationalism

2019-11-12 18:50:33 UTC  

I will protect my culture before any others

2019-11-12 18:50:42 UTC  

bruh

2019-11-12 18:50:50 UTC  

muh culture

2019-11-12 18:51:12 UTC  

Yes saying muh culture will absolutely change my mind or contribute to a good conversation

2019-11-12 18:51:39 UTC  

Muh Internationalism

2019-11-12 18:51:44 UTC  

what culture are you even talking about

2019-11-12 18:53:05 UTC  

Ukrainian for me