Message from @Gromp

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2019-11-12 18:26:46 UTC  

How does Nazbol even work? Like you recognize class struggle and all but also blame it on ze jews or sth

2019-11-12 18:26:48 UTC  

?

2019-11-12 18:37:11 UTC  

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2019-11-12 18:40:29 UTC  

Class Struggle has been the underpinning reason civilization cannot break from its cycle of growth, golden age, and downfall. Only when class struggle is fully realized within the national consciousness can the people free themselves and unite under the banner of their nation. Other nations must achieve this consciousness themselves, but gentle intellectual aid is acceptable. But installing puppet Governments and other such actions do not solve class struggle but simply just change *who* is the rich and powerful. @Gromp

2019-11-12 18:40:59 UTC  

So umm how do you do that?

2019-11-12 18:43:49 UTC  

There are a plethora of ways national consciousness of class struggle can be achieved, not all are good. Looking at the current state of the US, national consciousness among the middle and lower classes is slowly waking up towards this realisation. Partly manifested in the "Ok Boomer" trend young radicals see that the rich and often old abuse their nation for their own means.

2019-11-12 18:45:23 UTC  

So you want to use nationalism as a tool to achieve class consciousness?

2019-11-12 18:45:29 UTC  

Yes

2019-11-12 18:45:39 UTC  

The rich don't care about their nation

2019-11-12 18:45:42 UTC  

Only of profit

2019-11-12 18:46:18 UTC  

Fair nuff, why does it have to be nationalism in particular?

2019-11-12 18:47:21 UTC  

Nationalism is perhaps the most effective binding tool

2019-11-12 18:47:42 UTC  

The best for creating a unified identity

2019-11-12 18:48:36 UTC  

Socialism can only truely exist when capitalists everywhere are deposed

2019-11-12 18:48:51 UTC  

I don't oppose that

2019-11-12 18:48:58 UTC  

why would you be nationalist

2019-11-12 18:49:16 UTC  

Nationalism and Capitalism aren't compatible

2019-11-12 18:49:28 UTC  

Capitalism is inheritly globalist

2019-11-12 18:49:41 UTC  

Globalism is better for business

2019-11-12 18:50:03 UTC  

yes

2019-11-12 18:50:04 UTC  

So whats so appealing about nationalism that you make it that much of a core tenet?

2019-11-12 18:50:22 UTC  

I care about my culture

2019-11-12 18:50:26 UTC  

Above other cultures

2019-11-12 18:50:28 UTC  

but socialism is inherently internationalism

2019-11-12 18:50:33 UTC  

I will protect my culture before any others

2019-11-12 18:50:42 UTC  

bruh

2019-11-12 18:50:50 UTC  

muh culture

2019-11-12 18:51:12 UTC  

Yes saying muh culture will absolutely change my mind or contribute to a good conversation

2019-11-12 18:51:39 UTC  

Muh Internationalism

2019-11-12 18:51:44 UTC  

what culture are you even talking about

2019-11-12 18:53:05 UTC  

Ukrainian for me

2019-11-12 18:53:34 UTC  

So why are these things such a core tenet to you? Cuz historically you can very well have both as seen with Japan for example

2019-11-12 18:54:06 UTC  

Afk

2019-11-12 19:08:49 UTC  

Dark path

2019-11-12 19:46:13 UTC  

Boomers allowed degeneracy to take hold in the United States

2019-11-12 20:11:26 UTC  

Boomers were taught degeneracy. They did not invent it. All the civil rights leaders, all the feminists leaders, and all the cultural touchstones were born before the baby boom in 1946.

2019-11-12 20:12:21 UTC  

White people are destined to fall into "degeneracy" without some kind of war or genocide

2019-11-12 20:17:29 UTC  

No, they can be easily tricked due the lack of good education and their trusting nature.

2019-11-12 20:18:16 UTC  

Someone had to first teach them not to judge others then to accept the false reality as true.

2019-11-12 20:24:00 UTC  

So whites are just weak minded individuals

2019-11-12 20:44:31 UTC  

No they build strong cohesive societies that only work for people like them. Insert another foreign culture into that society and they don't do well.