Message from @CaesarKonrad

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2019-12-12 00:33:23 UTC  

Corporatism is an interesting mixed economic model.

2019-12-12 00:33:30 UTC  

Corporatism is epic

2019-12-12 00:33:35 UTC  

And so natsyndie

2019-12-12 00:33:44 UTC  

I haven’t studied that one enough.

2019-12-12 00:37:31 UTC  

Capitalism is a replication of natural biology. Organisms trade effort/work for resources/value.
The ONLY way to form a society without labor/value exchange is if you remove the biological element. Therefore Socialism and Communism advocate for the destruction of not only individuality but natural biological function as a whole.
The only way for Communism to work is to remove the human element.

2019-12-12 00:38:13 UTC  

**mic drop**

2019-12-12 00:41:01 UTC  

That's absolutely fine. Capitalism is basically the method to sustain the upkeep of the state; a planned economy is needed while you're establishing the state because you need to allocate raw materials/sectors that will ultimately allow you to prop up the consumer economy at a later time.

But to recklessly pursue unregulated capitalism is dangerous in that you would allow predatory corporations to destroy that competition, and in turn hamper innovation.

2019-12-12 00:41:03 UTC  

Even in Star Trek they realized that it was retarded to just fly around not paying for anything, that's why they invented "platinum bars" as a medium of exchange.

2019-12-12 00:42:05 UTC  

Well if there is a predator nature will find a way around it. either by killing the beast or evolving to not be threatened

2019-12-12 00:42:13 UTC  

"Nature finds a way"

2019-12-12 00:42:16 UTC  

So you need some form of regulation, which we are currently lacking because of evident tax loopholes for corporations and PAC lobbying.

2019-12-12 00:42:21 UTC  

oh ye of little faith

2019-12-12 00:42:39 UTC  

How will you kill the megacorporation.

2019-12-12 00:42:40 UTC  

What is a porcupine?

2019-12-12 00:42:43 UTC  

Say, you're a layman.

2019-12-12 00:43:20 UTC  

a layman can fire a cannon and gun

2019-12-12 00:43:24 UTC  

And you see this large multicorp, that has developed for several years, has multiple shareholders, and has successfully lobbied the government multiple times to the point where they are more than willing to bail it out in the case they file for bankruptcy, I.E. GM.

2019-12-12 00:43:30 UTC  

a layman can wield a blade

2019-12-12 00:44:30 UTC  

*"They have taken up arms "in defence of the Freedom that is our Birthright and which we ever enjoyed until the late Violation of it", and will "lay them down when Hostilities shall cease on the part of the Aggressors"."*

2019-12-12 00:46:01 UTC  

You don't just fall out of the sky a fully grown human, you are brought up in a culture, a society, and it is the duty of that society to imbue that individual with the knowledge to protect and extend that culture.

2019-12-12 00:46:51 UTC  

People do have a natural tendency to trade but as capitalism progresses it becomes more and more morally corrupt

2019-12-12 00:47:15 UTC  

That's why the 2nd amendment isnt just about being able to own a gun... it's literally about the ability of citizens to have exactly the same weapons as the professional military so they can be resisted and killed if necessary, if they become tyrannical

2019-12-12 00:47:28 UTC  

that's just nonsense

2019-12-12 00:47:35 UTC  

How?

2019-12-12 00:47:44 UTC  

well it's wrong to start

2019-12-12 00:47:57 UTC  

what "morals" are you talking about?

2019-12-12 00:48:07 UTC  

The modem capitalism is nowhere close to the old capitalism

2019-12-12 00:48:14 UTC  

how are they "corrupt"? just because they hurt your widdle fee fees?

2019-12-12 00:48:37 UTC  

you are just stringing words together like a drone

2019-12-12 00:49:51 UTC  

Well let’s see
Acceptance of debt
Porn
Hedonism
Corporations make money by chemical addiction
They propagandize you to do unhealthy things
Social media companies advertise as the new social square but oppress free speech

2019-12-12 00:50:38 UTC  

Modern Corporate policy is definitely corrupt. but that's because we have these false ageless undying entitles that serve banks and money before they serve individuals or people as a whole

2019-12-12 00:50:48 UTC  

yes, debt is the main issue.

2019-12-12 00:51:05 UTC  

banks are the problem, not Capitalism

2019-12-12 00:51:41 UTC  

Banks create a structure outside normal labor/value exchange that cannot be satisfied

2019-12-12 00:51:48 UTC  

Banks are like a black hole

2019-12-12 00:51:53 UTC  

Hmm not propagandizing the populous and Nikki my money out of them via addiction you give them

2019-12-12 00:53:31 UTC  

under natural law, if you try and sell everyone an addiction you will run into problems when they can no longer provide you with money or you run out of the substance. with banks you can infinite value and so provide infinite addiction, thus enslaving a population.

2019-12-12 00:53:53 UTC  

Look at the central banks... all the way back to the Chinese Opium wars banks were supporting the whole scheme

2019-12-12 00:54:27 UTC  

Expect w he n they are product

2019-12-12 00:54:30 UTC  

The UK was addicted to tea so they sold opium to the chinks to get the money to pay for tea and spices. All supported by ageless corporations and banks

2019-12-12 00:54:34 UTC  

It is mainly free things that do that